Received: from mail-pa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.220.61]:40600) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1V7We0-0007TF-Ol for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:18 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id kp13sf1048442pab.26 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=E6Z47YPgNXnALyyjoafY4lnJyRXVVijd/fchHcKnuVw=; b=Cea0cFio7QAx9FGX39797vBxQRQ8UMu1T0shaEMxYzpouGex5xxgfflrOs1iXt6odL Mb4l/FeZyQskerhtvUVRc0jnyxuX4GbL9B0AFWNOH4j05OwK3a3YjYmrjCjI5GkThpGa QUUuKzM561uWRQik+LnkKaVIIlfeh7nz1IpD99dacxDyDGLq5KLV+Pa9Hv7gMoN1hSbq kO1Ez5Gvv+5vynEBfIM2YBJw9b1dOUegE/wPzIf+K7n3vZR4fZmJeIwByM67L6zaptyX o4FnHqJCW3liSan1Jry7ZE/Z5VDymfuY9E4O7rZxSKXi/N5iXFdMilMlS9ZtzlcyEqbw tpxg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=E6Z47YPgNXnALyyjoafY4lnJyRXVVijd/fchHcKnuVw=; b=SUpyMPi9sX79Xt/jx/lpFpNpsHBFOPdduClz/pdhVvxcUQL4Dmk/NiRef7ZnppkWSo LNvbpdb7GPk4yIK8mkW3urNnmY2FCNeV9SkEpXp/+/aa+YMKfpihsPBgk06hyriY/88G 4HOxeZDynGyTNRDH+8RfQSIeSdC3M9Tbt1OLTiftMvr3lY9f7RhXSHLay8kNNUN5/Psx vTz1nH0x0BHmj9CuFOi+HoO8wmfiyrNWZRVLbsLt6IS0cElzB7jAhSo/eA3IgJpGqJI6 LGhAFP7vUStRCkB4YGzrCoGFWYmjqGZoCGFByDMi5rTgyFc+Spja+aUFi/+h6/M6W1kc LsZQ== X-Received: by 10.50.4.38 with SMTP id h6mr50981igh.8.1375993026545; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.39.39 with SMTP id m7ls525200igk.29.canary; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.145.162 with SMTP id sv2mr2271462pab.15.1375993026074; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id px10si1702728pbb.2.2013.08.08.13.17.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d; Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id bg4so3969631pad.18 for ; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.118.129 with SMTP id km1mr7635101pab.127.1375993024962; Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.7.3 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:17:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <00d5de63-b33c-4e9a-a95d-54827beb952f@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] where is the magic of {nau} as sumtcita? From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) d=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ffbab6b776df204e3755770 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8ffbab6b776df204e3755770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Well, I'm not sure "nau SUMTI" is meaningful, because nau is never > relative to some event. > I would assume it's like ZAhO, that is, {broda nau ko'a} == {nau broda ca ko'a}, i.e. "broda at the time of this utterance which by the way is ko'a." mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --e89a8ffbab6b776df204e3755770 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Michael Turniansky <= mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
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=A0Well, I'm not sure &= quot;nau SUMTI" is meaningful, because nau is never relative to some e= vent.
I would assume it's like ZAhO, that is, {broda nau ko= 'a} =3D=3D {nau broda ca ko'a}, i.e. "broda at the time of thi= s utterance which by the way is ko'a."

mi= 'e la latro'a mu'o=A0

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