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Clifford To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" =20 Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Hacking Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets =20 Because most fancy writing systems get to most popular conlang sites eventu= ally (and, as noted, repeatedly). I long ago lost count for Lojban; toki po= na has gone past thirty, I think. Writing in real time -- or even legibly -- is be the point in conscripts; b= eauty and system is everything. Sent from my iPad On Aug 15, 2013, at 16:44, MorphemeAddict wrote: I wonder why this is on a Lojban list.=A0 > > >Can you write in Dscript in real time?=A0 > > >stevo > > > >On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:03 AM, vasten wrote: > >This has been my obsessive art hobby for well over a decade now. I call it= Dscript. >> >>it is like a "cursive alphabetical writing system", with some differences >>Unlike standard cursive scripts which are written in either horizontal or= vertical format >>Dscript allows BOTH vertical AND horizontal at the same time. >> >>The simplest way to imagine this is that a standard cursive word is like = a "string or letters" >>Now imagine you take that string idea and design an alphabet of letters=20 than can be strung together in more than a simple 1-Dimensional string >> >>Dscript "letter strings" can be bent, curled, even forked and have letter= s inside of other letters >>It was designed to allow as much 2D flexibility as possible, while still = conserving pen strokes. >> >>The end result is a writing system that allows for words to be "compresse= d" into a fully legible "alphabetical symbol". >>Both the letters and sequence of letters is fully legible in each symbol.=20 entire phrases and sentences can even be compressed into larger symbols. >> >>The result is not restricted to "symbols and glyphs", it allows the=20 string to flex and fork in 2D, so a "letters string" can be long/tall=20 triangle/circle/square/ >>rectangle/etc.. >> >>I had so much fun with it I just published creative commons, free to copy= /edit and yes, even free to sell and use commercially. >>The Dscript concept work on any alphabet, but tends to break down at=20 alphabets of over 40 letters or so, best for 25 or less I would say,=20 fewer letters=3Dmore flexibility. >>Guide to design new alphabets : http://dscript.ca/dscript_conlang.gif >> >>Lots of websites and videos with materials, attached a few pics and the i= ntro pdf >>Hope you like :) >> >>Matt >>http://dscript.org (currently experiencing DNS probs, might be flaky) >>http://dscript.ca >> >>https://www.youtube.com/user/freedscript >>https://www.facebook.com/Dscripting >>http://dscript.deviantart.com/ --=20 >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > --=20 >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups = "lojban" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an = email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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is NOT the= point


From: John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yah= oo.com>
To: "lojban= @googlegroups.com" <lojban@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:05 PM
<= b>Subject: Re: [lojban] Hacki= ng Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets

Because most fancy writing systems get t= o most popular conlang sites eventually (and, as noted, repeatedly). I long= ago lost count for Lojban; toki pona has gone past thirty, I think.
<= div>Writing in real time -- or even legibly -- is be the point in conscript= s; beauty and system is everything.

Sent from my iPad

= On Aug 15, 2013, at 16:44, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder why this is on a Lojban list.=  

Can you write in Dscript in real time? 

stevo


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:= 03 AM, vasten <vastencn@gmail.com> wrote:
This has been my obsessive art hobby for well over a decade now. I call = it Dscript.

it is like a "cursive alphabetical writing system", with some differencesUnlike standard cursive scripts which are written in either horizontal or= vertical format
Dscript allows BOTH vertical AND horizontal at the same= time.

The simplest way to imagine this is that a standard cursive word is lik= e a "string or letters"
Now imagine you take that string idea and design an alphabet of letters=20 than can be strung together in more than a simple 1-Dimensional string
<= br>Dscript "letter strings" can be bent, curled, even forked and have lette= rs inside of other letters
It was designed to allow as much 2D flexibili= ty as possible, while still conserving pen strokes.

The end result is a writing system that allows for words to be "compres= sed" into a fully legible "alphabetical symbol".
Both the letters and sequence of letters is fully legible in each symbol.=20 entire phrases and sentences can even be compressed into larger symbols.
The result is not restricted to "symbols and glyphs", it allows the=20 string to flex and fork in 2D, so a "letters string" can be long/tall=20 triangle/circle/square/
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