Received: from mail-bk0-f55.google.com ([209.85.214.55]:37551) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VAQWc-0000yW-7F for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:46 -0700 Received: by mail-bk0-f55.google.com with SMTP id mz12sf410533bkb.0 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wQzspKOD1lA/dvnaLP2kkGSl02Ta++OqlTQFmm9E0MQ=; b=d1kzZQeXg3Z3xrIOH06E6aGlQllFXodf3u0uJVhAEsJ3LJEuUyHDSEjGPDIlW0XzNe B9M2Wx0vgg/eEUKHaszR8n5vClost/iJEjm2kxq8drxb0OMpIeMxSBZ2y9ludb0w0gGf r6OOsZKaororbtkY6L1uOWvrStoVaRwAn0c+5DqEwYhN8KntaKz6Mic38Q7IuOGwfUsD 3idCI/Fiapcmxq+vkRb+EJamKl0xyi7WVonSi9ag+n+csdC8SCH7WGBlBqIQ+l8zF/Zl +pMg2PWQYBrCBHa+1lFSIcJrcsGlxl2anifCSpKeSErIHtKPmWJJ0wVU/v84/V055xVq JD3w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wQzspKOD1lA/dvnaLP2kkGSl02Ta++OqlTQFmm9E0MQ=; b=cqjxwamdkLKgCs1B49tDmPOzoijiPB+kN+On5gsvQJ4Rj4xzwLdThDxZ6A2peanSX+ TcpELjguyfV27nei5qEr7gl9KA1/k+5iHnNpVlGnhPB0AaUJiofWvb0fnpFENRC3AtKl pr4wSJpoSMl9r0CtGniR+4F9F9Xkfx8zFSPK5cU6dwQUWAayVoJf6Vs38+eCIWZwv6MK yrQo4DP2eR9e/YV4sZiMOWfBu9+bLYROH8PhCEZHkDi0mY+HL77AnPOuYbZ4vS3rMW56 AuDJK75x+7CxrU2142ov/sjSE1Pe4gJTF+iJ3Vu7rcnMKhpbD32yecUEoXJQuvTEEjbv 2btQ== X-Received: by 10.180.185.173 with SMTP id fd13mr44216wic.3.1376684486509; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.79.72 with SMTP id h8ls268483wix.46.canary; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.224.8 with SMTP id im8mr166583bkb.5.1376684485211; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x241.google.com (mail-la0-x241.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::241]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id de16si199488bkb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::241 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::241; Received: by mail-la0-x241.google.com with SMTP id ep20so862340lab.0 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.29.17 with SMTP id f17mr261287lbh.45.1376684484718; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.180.36 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:21:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1376665120.29537.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <09305FC7-1862-4AC5-8409-71CE52969691@yahoo.com> <1376665120.29537.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:21:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Hacking Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::241 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) d=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133c690adf68b04e416551c X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a1133c690adf68b04e416551c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM, John E Clifford wrote: > is NOT the point > , but it should be. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* John E. Clifford > *To:* "lojban@googlegroups.com" > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 9:05 PM > *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Hacking Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets > > Because most fancy writing systems get to most popular conlang sites > eventually (and, as noted, repeatedly). I long ago lost count for Lojban; > toki pona has gone past thirty, I think. > Writing in real time -- or even legibly -- is be the point in conscripts; > beauty and system is everything. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 15, 2013, at 16:44, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > I wonder why this is on a Lojban list. > > Can you write in Dscript in real time? > > stevo > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:03 AM, vasten wrote: > > This has been my obsessive art hobby for well over a decade now. I call it > Dscript. > > it is like a "cursive alphabetical writing system", with some differences > Unlike standard cursive scripts which are written in either horizontal or > vertical format > Dscript allows BOTH vertical AND horizontal at the same time. > > The simplest way to imagine this is that a standard cursive word is like a > "string or letters" > Now imagine you take that string idea and design an alphabet of letters > than can be strung together in more than a simple 1-Dimensional string > > Dscript "letter strings" can be bent, curled, even forked and have letters > inside of other letters > It was designed to allow as much 2D flexibility as possible, while still > conserving pen strokes. > > The end result is a writing system that allows for words to be > "compressed" into a fully legible "alphabetical symbol". > Both the letters and sequence of letters is fully legible in each symbol. > entire phrases and sentences can even be compressed into larger symbols. > > The result is not restricted to "symbols and glyphs", it allows the string > to flex and fork in 2D, so a "letters string" can be long/tall > triangle/circle/square/ > rectangle/etc.. > > I had so much fun with it I just published creative commons, free to > copy/edit and yes, even free to sell and use commercially. > The Dscript concept work on any alphabet, but tends to break down at > alphabets of over 40 letters or so, best for 25 or less I would say, fewer > letters=more flexibility. > Guide to design new alphabets : http://dscript.ca/dscript_conlang.gif > > Lots of websites and videos with materials, attached a few pics and the > intro pdf > Hope you like :) > > Matt > http://dscript.org (currently experiencing DNS probs, might be flaky) > http://dscript.ca > > https://www.youtube.com/user/f**reedscript > https://www.facebook.com/Dscri**pting > http://dscript.deviantart.com/ > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On F= ri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:58 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com= > wrote:
is NOT the point<= /div>

, but it should be.
<= div>=A0

From: John E. Cliffo= rd <kali9putra= @yahoo.com>
To: "lojban@googlegroups.com&quo= t; <lojban@= googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, = 2013 9:05 PM
Subject: Re= : [lojban] Hacking Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets
 <= /div>

Because most fancy writing systems get to most popular conla= ng sites eventually (and, as noted, repeatedly). I long ago lost count for = Lojban; toki pona has gone past thirty, I think.
Writing in real = time -- or even legibly -- is be the point in conscripts; beauty and system= is everything.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 15, 2013, at 16:44, MorphemeAddi= ct <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder why this is on a Lojban list.=A0

Can you write in Dscript in real time?=A0

= stevo


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:03 AM, vasten = <vastencn@gmail.com> wrote:
This has been my obsessive art h= obby for well over a decade now. I call it Dscript.

it is like a "cursive alphabetical writing system", with some dif= ferences
Unlike standard cursive scripts which are written in either hor= izontal or vertical format
Dscript allows BOTH vertical AND horizontal a= t the same time.

The simplest way to imagine this is that a standard cursive word is lik= e a "string or letters"
Now imagine you take that string idea and design an alphabet of letters=20 than can be strung together in more than a simple 1-Dimensional string
<= br>Dscript "letter strings" can be bent, curled, even forked and = have letters inside of other letters
It was designed to allow as much 2D= flexibility as possible, while still conserving pen strokes.

The end result is a writing system that allows for words to be "co= mpressed" into a fully legible "alphabetical symbol".
Bot= h the letters and sequence of letters is fully legible in each symbol.=20 entire phrases and sentences can even be compressed into larger symbols.
The result is not restricted to "symbols and glyphs", it allows the= =20 string to flex and fork in 2D, so a "letters string" can be long/= tall=20 triangle/circle/square/
rectangle/etc..

I had so muc= h fun with it I just published creative commons, free to copy/edit and yes,= even free to sell and use commercially.
The Dscript concept work on any alphabet, but tends to break down at=20 alphabets of over 40 letters or so, best for 25 or less I would say,=20 fewer letters=3Dmore flexibility.
Guide to design new alphabets : http://dscrip= t.ca/dscript_conlang.gif

Lots of websites and videos with materi= als, attached a few pics and the intro pdf
Hope you like :)

Matt
http://dscript.org (currently experiencing DNS probs, might be fl= aky)
http://dscript.ca

https://www.youtube.com/user/freedscript
https://www.facebook.com/Dscripting
http://dscript= .deviantart.com/
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