Received: from mail-wi0-f184.google.com ([209.85.212.184]:61192) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VAUTR-0002Zh-LN for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:34:42 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f184.google.com with SMTP id hj13sf235017wib.1 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=esF+iCn9OCE4OMnUmGTkwOcX636Wh0R++zKbBfT0NMg=; b=joN2XLa3wd3C5UfuqiOqcyuqMJ6gK2sSQOILI8/5cd4kgpfmad40ofW9Gx/XHhlbL/ uaiN2lTQNApiizL1EJykmdsQRa1Z1VfPP/S1Z0uo00QiVvTihR6x7Wv5MuJA9sqxHsbn ZaX+LTtOCBFQmlvZlT0iZ+J0gONQNPiXPMhY9i+sbvgrxmoRXygWm78n0f9wjQFuHN+O ff/arrx6HJIigEQuk0cH6yU3msOx43L18P4uWfZJwMYldzGNYE43RUEGURsujtiREtms irCyoGRTaAJaAkoyu62rPBzcT/WheeC13Dgm6/bwFEAB4pRx2CbfJpkjfmqHPAdpDf+a eYMg== X-Received: by 10.180.10.41 with SMTP id f9mr3163wib.2.1376699664427; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.89.9 with SMTP id bk9ls303108wib.21.gmail; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.15.64.6 with SMTP id n6mr314693eex.5.1376699663946; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1si23449ees.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4d0cd4b2.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.212.178]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E88008603B6 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 2013 02:34:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 02:34:21 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Hacking Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets Message-ID: <20130817003421.GD23845@samsa.fritz.box> References: <09305FC7-1862-4AC5-8409-71CE52969691@yahoo.com> <1376665120.29537.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NklN7DEeGtkPCoo3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --NklN7DEeGtkPCoo3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 03:09:03PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM, .arpis. wro= te: > > Why should it be? Ithkuil is a perfectly legitimate conlang despite the > > fact that it's impossible to speak in real time. >=20 > I was speaking personally, and about writing systems, not languages. I > don't see the point of using a writing system that, well, isn't usable. Ever tried to ba'e write Ithkuil? Not much better. > Why would I use a writing system that takes minutes to write one word when > I can use one that takes deciseconds? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calligraphy Writing is just as much an art as it is a tool. ta'o I don't understand why cursive should not be usable. In the worst case you can always learn "standard" forms of many words instead of trying to read each word letter by letter. This, however, still has nothing to do with lojban. v4hn --NklN7DEeGtkPCoo3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIOxQ0ACgkQMBKLZs4+wjwdTgCfdsO/1cCT1ErlOTLhjkaWtOK2 CBEAn2V5237W3sVv0DYeP2G69TFvFbY5 =MM8m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NklN7DEeGtkPCoo3--