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Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:06:56 +0800
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Hacking Cursive - 2D aspects for cursive alphabets
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i have tried to avoide this argument because i am quite biased.. but i
agree completely with john clifford.

What makes you think it takes minutes to write a word in Dscript? because
that how long it took you at first try? it took me forever to write chinese
characters when i first started earning them.. now i can zip them out in
fast cursive.. much like dscript.


On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM, John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Well, actually it is spang on.  Lojban is as useless (and uglier) than
> Descript for getting toilet paper at a drugstore.  It all depends on
> purpose and aesthetic. The writing system is a metaphor for the conlang
> game.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 16, 2013, at 19:34, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 03:09:03PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>> Why should it be? Ithkuil is a perfectly legitimate conlang despite the
> >>> fact that it's impossible to speak in real time.
> >>
> >> I was speaking personally, and about writing systems, not languages. I
> >> don't see the point of using a writing system that, well, isn't usable.
> >
> > Ever tried to ba'e write Ithkuil? Not much better.
> >
> >> Why would I use a writing system that takes minutes to write one word
> when
> >> I can use one that takes deciseconds?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calligraphy
> > Writing is just as much an art as it is a tool.
> > ta'o I don't understand why cursive should not be usable.
> > In the worst case you can always learn "standard" forms of many words
> > instead of trying to read each word letter by letter.
> >
> > This, however, still has nothing to do with lojban.
> >
> >
> > v4hn
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>i have tried to avoide this argument because i am qui=
te biased.. but i agree completely with john clifford.<br><br></div><div>Wh=
at makes you think it takes minutes to write a word in Dscript? because tha=
t how long it took you at first try? it took me forever to write chinese ch=
aracters when i first started earning them.. now i can zip them out in fast=
 cursive.. much like dscript.<br>
</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:31 AM, John E. Clifford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kali9putra@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">kali9putra@yahoo.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, actually it is spang on. =A0Lojban is =
as useless (and uglier) than Descript for getting toilet paper at a drugsto=
re. =A0It all depends on purpose and aesthetic. The writing system is a met=
aphor for the conlang game.<br>

<br>
Sent from my iPad<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Aug 16, 2013, at 19:34, v4hn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:me@v4hn.de">me@v4hn.d=
e</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 03:09:03PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM, .arpis. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpg=
lover64%2Bjbobau@gmail.com">rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Why should it be? Ithkuil is a perfectly legitimate conlang de=
spite the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; fact that it&#39;s impossible to speak in real time.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I was speaking personally, and about writing systems, not language=
s. I<br>
&gt;&gt; don&#39;t see the point of using a writing system that, well, isn&=
#39;t usable.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ever tried to ba&#39;e write Ithkuil? Not much better.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Why would I use a writing system that takes minutes to write one w=
ord when<br>
&gt;&gt; I can use one that takes deciseconds?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calligraphy" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calligraphy</a><br>
&gt; Writing is just as much an art as it is a tool.<br>
&gt; ta&#39;o I don&#39;t understand why cursive should not be usable.<br>
&gt; In the worst case you can always learn &quot;standard&quot; forms of m=
any words<br>
&gt; instead of trying to read each word letter by letter.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This, however, still has nothing to do with lojban.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; v4hn<br>
<br>
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