Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 02:30:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dmitriy Remselgin <remselgin@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban] The Usability Project
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coi rodo

It's my first post here, but I'm not a complete nintadni, and I'd like to 
take part in improving and popularizing lojban.

There are many things that may be very useful for me or everyone who is 
interested in lojban. We'd love to read about current state of affairs, 
news, proposals; we want to access all lojban-related programs; we want to 
add new lujvo to the jbovlaste; we want the information to be *organized 
and easily accessible*.

And what do we have instead? The great *mess*. I do not want to offend 
anyone, but the main web-site is ugly and unhandy. Someone will say that it 
does not matter, but it does! The usability must be one the primary 
concerns in any enterprise. Just look at the interface of jbovalste from 
the very first page http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/newaccount.html to the page 
where we add new words with its loooong and booooring instructions. The 
parser is broken (try "ti nanca li xa" or any other phrase with "li"). 
Mailing lists as the main way of communication are great if you do not want 
to find some particular info, because in this case the task becomes 
unbearable. And this list is in no way complete.

The lojban project is stagnated. And we must start its reanimation with 
reanimation of its *interface*. There's a plenty of work to do. We should 
start the "Usability Project" as soon as possible. To accomplish it, we 
need 1) experienced lojbanists who can organize and filter information, 2) 
programmers and designers who can create handy and featured software and a 
web-site.

mi'e remselgin

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<div dir=3D"ltr">coi rodo<br><br>It's my first post here, but I'm not a com=
plete nintadni, and I'd like to take part in improving and popularizing loj=
ban.<br><br>There are many things that may be very useful for me or everyon=
e who is interested in lojban. We'd love to read about current state of aff=
airs, news, proposals; we want to access all lojban-related programs; we wa=
nt to add new lujvo to the jbovlaste; we want the information to be <b>orga=
nized and easily accessible</b>.<br><br>And what do we have instead? The gr=
eat <b>mess</b>. I do not want to offend anyone, but the main web-site is u=
gly and unhandy. Someone will say that it does not matter, but it does! The=
 usability must be one the primary concerns in any enterprise. Just look at=
 the interface of jbovalste from the very first page http://jbovlaste.lojba=
n.org/newaccount.html to the page where we add new words with its loooong a=
nd booooring instructions. The parser is broken (try "ti nanca li xa" or an=
y other phrase with "li"). Mailing lists as the main way of communication a=
re great if you do not want to find some particular info, because in this c=
ase the task becomes unbearable. And this list is in no way complete.<br><b=
r>The lojban project is stagnated. And we must start its reanimation with r=
eanimation of its <b>interface</b>. There's a plenty of work to do. We shou=
ld start the "Usability Project" as soon as possible. To accomplish it, we =
need 1) experienced lojbanists who can organize and filter information, 2) =
programmers and designers who can create handy and featured software and a =
web-site.<br><br>mi'e remselgin<br></div>

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