Received: from mail-gh0-f183.google.com ([209.85.160.183]:36975) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VE6bg-0004ck-8X for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:54:09 -0700 Received: by mail-gh0-f183.google.com with SMTP id r16sf1123071ghr.0 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jhr9NW4Q0khhE3aAANayXZ8Xef+EQ1rqal3pLcQYYyw=; b=lJF3APDVk9kEtP0DpKUdEGjOCBKqYqM8ApK3HJtAmHxPBBurqVs6qcNbdGzJrlcfKD vmrqbdUDbwI7sj1FHRI15fFlbMWIjaJhRdzt6RYcuI3AGKgzCTz40+SXX7Ao4cXi2Nf/ ujn63OBcruRlyx25Iqvu47Mt+KJx8HPuVd7mnFVIE7C4/roEXpfExmouwqQrW8Ws+FiT nt818xjyTbHX+3mQxmaxIygn47ubLDLlOhsa4RBBL4E/cK+OCwRo0W9DyFK6UJAkAeDF zlOAJ36MBRMADgQ4Lu47oxy2kKS9uzpNDXJERqvCAGd90ByIP5MG6Z3fdiaL0TOQuMYJ BvKg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jhr9NW4Q0khhE3aAANayXZ8Xef+EQ1rqal3pLcQYYyw=; b=MkHHlnI/85G/tSt0TQ6FZXPL3ZWz3hHI4kO8NghERIAXAl1A+vYkeBlzsM9FsgnsMx qftUsanemAy2/O1Bu2Uhn6Vt25j/gP0Q2a7Yd19C1FF2LX24DtpptAr/TwfzqHjCjoVj gUH/IpTMx5oibDXWZdbAQHoQqReCSQgdm4kzfK8oyVrAwbw/3eycdVXijLDgM5Hq4H/L zpFI5dH5OtTkr274nGTZb/6+WzYxGeVyh6YVW8vlGXJ3zOS7lr2DlMQvVztbeP5VAatZ rWcKo3GkjDFLzgkkHaYu/INBkNiTLYeDkBpibbXncupKEfuxc2pH+enWipTmPUjyUEjc /vwQ== X-Received: by 10.50.115.73 with SMTP id jm9mr486381igb.6.1377561234116; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.3.103 with SMTP id b7ls2689606igb.2.canary; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.246.4 with SMTP id lw4mr4748357icb.32.1377561233322; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-x235.google.com (mail-oa0-x235.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m6si1849662igb.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235; Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k18so4382239oag.26 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.119.229 with SMTP id kx5mr16448946obb.23.1377561233038; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.121.200 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:53:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4b9632c4-23b2-4539-a2a2-e69379bbe6f4@googlegroups.com> References: <81035812.sIN8aMtHr8@caracal> <9b858f5c-b6af-4a9e-a6cd-22833a7dd611@googlegroups.com> <4b9632c4-23b2-4539-a2a2-e69379bbe6f4@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:53:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Traffic signs To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) d=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2e352f3a4af04e4e27710 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c2e352f3a4af04e4e27710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26 August 2013 16:42, iesk wrote: > Le lundi 26 ao=FBt 2013 10:24:02 UTC+2, cntrational a =E9crit : > >> Many places use the English word "STOP" for their stop signs. There are >> exceptions and variations, of course, like how France uses "STOP", but >> Qu=E9bec uses "ARR=CAT". >> >> mi'e .cntr. >> > > Of course, France does not use the English word =91stop=91, but the Frenc= h > word =91stop=92. http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/stop > > Then again, if you asked a quebecker whether "stop" is a french word, they'd tell you that it isn't. That being said, there's moderate controversy surrounding "stop" vs. "arr=EAt" in Quebec, as the latter is just a noun whereas the former is typically interpreted as being an imperative. mi'e la tsani mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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On 26 August 2013 16:42, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> w= rote:
Le lundi 26 ao=FBt 2013 10:24:02 UTC+2, cntrational a =E9c= rit=A0:
Many places use the English word "STOP" for their stop signs. The= re are exceptions and variations, of course, like how France uses "STO= P", but Qu=E9bec uses "ARR=CAT".

mi'e .cntr.

Of course, France does not= use the English word =91stop=91, but the French word =91stop=92. http://www.cnrtl= .fr/definition/stop

Then= again, if you asked a quebecker whether "stop" is a french word,= they'd tell you that it isn't.
Tha= t being said, there's moderate controversy surrounding "stop"= vs. "arr=EAt" in Quebec, as the latter is just a noun whereas th= e former is typically interpreted as being an imperative.

mi'e la= tsani mu'o

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