Received: from mail-ob0-f185.google.com ([209.85.214.185]:43934) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VFxj7-0006BI-N2 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:49:25 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f185.google.com with SMTP id wd6sf758183obb.2 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=H7iF3NMBIF/J6nGLHl/kLSxsZDqZ3aMT0QTMkz/Qvok=; b=v4pMFK8DoWinHyqseieA31QJXENzsOmom9BUddGtbgi0Mbwj5B8y3IMSo6wSUuoxqk L1SVLJy2j/5mqfQdR4ZpgZTL0MsXLvspztq/wBdnuHSEELk9WpCi0uYE2Fa5s8MP1FjU ZmxlWrHN3nxi48J6OYCDEO0ZuuKnnVRv337AVyLqVAUwsT71uD5eNO5WOKTR+WlDd2Ln 3NQeFSp2lVuBr99KdyXjrEndVJXpboo4osz1cQ61sLbxUti107sXgBqu187/6FGY/IYk lL1Fc1s42QEkHtuIqT9ZM/xZf1WCulbrVxYBDT0Khu2fzlSQCs0vnDQ6lOWx05iPb61U 6tow== X-Received: by 10.49.14.170 with SMTP id q10mr628203qec.5.1378003755262; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:49:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.1.227 with SMTP id 3ls1870363qep.84.gmail; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:49:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.36.198 with SMTP id u6mr18097375qad.6.1378003754886; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id q1si662340qce.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60AF4533 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:49:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Military ranks ki'orja'a, ctoja'a, and dekyja'a Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3604064.ac2qCUcylf@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-51-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Yesterday I read "The Debut of Bimbashi Joyce". I thought "Bimbashi" was=20 Joyce's first name until I read "the Bimbashi". Then I looked it up and fou= nd=20 out it's from Turkish, and there are also yuzbashis and ombashis. I'm guess= ing=20 that the Turkish words are translations of =CF=87=CE=B9=CE=BB=CE=B9=CE=B1= =CF=81=CF=87=CE=BF=CF=82, =CE=B5=CE=BA=CE=B1=CF=84=CE=BF=CE=BD=CF=84=CE=B1= =CF=81=CF=87=CE=BF=CF=82, and=20 whatever the Greeks called decurions. So I thought up ki'orja'a, ctoja'a, a= nd=20 dekyja'a. What do you think? I just looked up "general" in vlasisku and found several words of the form = N- moija'a. I think there was a proposal to take Chinese ranks and European ra= nks=20 and mash them together to create fu'ivla. What became of those words? Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada, j=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.