Received: from mail-pd0-f192.google.com ([209.85.192.192]:55403) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VG0dL-0006gN-2y for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:55:40 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f192.google.com with SMTP id z10sf763928pdj.29 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:55:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JrwgDQhdueA6P3+xMVlEUMeA2ekVdxd5my2xbJtMhjY=; b=XEvhB7IOOSjEzgUNxuDaMxIRyIxgVAzhYzo1MOT4BkhWc+VJ89lYj4jujD0PMQiT6s W2l5a0qo0qe7JxZTMqjlTubD5Dl/zOWX7cqrs2F5SPil04fZ3+NMkPjHjCqeBMlejajF 6zYox1+2QewNLa1SfmvUnXy/ZY/7LgIQxMnjesaC9Zm13zcWSnlgjmO6oI1NMSm160Tu hXbIUk2qvYNQ65iPjn7fWkc7oVEvcklJr3Yf0/K3FDR5Rx8YKUq4Qj98OM4z4/57bED+ Dx+J8tU6IyEty1BLv1By8cCzFZzecYKFbh/+5cvhLhOzNgvKJXa4DgyZlvxoZwseXAY/ xrsQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JrwgDQhdueA6P3+xMVlEUMeA2ekVdxd5my2xbJtMhjY=; b=JMhbXbda8PSi3xtWGPZ2iJ5lDx5AgUkDd2cqE9x+OnNRt9hyRq/JovofmC8LYAkwiU 2WoEOPQR3LhC/AxxbLELeGjXCmP6F2ETGRDJafLPHthL7fvGz9U1flsmx+9gnubD0u9o sQl0rrLlmcu1wN33TlEOnD21E5baHArWfmef/8zRWh23u0uCyrA9XQyV/3v8zF3DkShN M8Bs+7YpciXjUCP49ljzJtm7P10pofn4Rxs3K8GecjjzPeItZrS03Ywy9vDkyUhZbpnf 6LELJRcqa/d77gsDeL8oz7p+9PB0a9Lt9Lo5x+yqwO9Dd51e6KwixhLMzDCApbhZppjv NoKw== X-Received: by 10.49.25.83 with SMTP id a19mr631110qeg.1.1378014928781; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.1.227 with SMTP id 3ls1889611qep.84.gmail; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.133.201 with SMTP id pe9mr1810qeb.6.1378014928455; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:55:27 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3604064.ac2qCUcylf@caracal> References: <3604064.ac2qCUcylf@caracal> Subject: [lojban] Re: Military ranks ki'orja'a, ctoja'a, and dekyja'a MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2136_6294796.1378014928045" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2136_6294796.1378014928045 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't imagine worthwhile system even within US, Britain and Canada. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Comparative_military_ranks For me it looks like unavoidable polysemy of such terms as "general",=20 "admiral", "captain" etc. On Sunday, September 1, 2013 6:49:10 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > Yesterday I read "The Debut of Bimbashi Joyce". I thought "Bimbashi" was= =20 > Joyce's first name until I read "the Bimbashi". Then I looked it up and= =20 > found=20 > out it's from Turkish, and there are also yuzbashis and ombashis. I'm=20 > guessing=20 > that the Turkish words are translations of =CF=87=CE=B9=CE=BB=CE=B9=CE=B1= =CF=81=CF=87=CE=BF=CF=82, =CE=B5=CE=BA=CE=B1=CF=84=CE=BF=CE=BD=CF=84=CE=B1= =CF=81=CF=87=CE=BF=CF=82, and=20 > whatever the Greeks called decurions. So I thought up ki'orja'a, ctoja'a,= =20 > and=20 > dekyja'a. What do you think?=20 > > I just looked up "general" in vlasisku and found several words of the for= m=20 > N-=20 > moija'a. I think there was a proposal to take Chinese ranks and European= =20 > ranks=20 > and mash them together to create fu'ivla. What became of those words?=20 > > Pierre=20 > --=20 > When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.=20 > J=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada, j=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada.=20 > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_2136_6294796.1378014928045 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't imagine worthwhile system even within US, Britain = and Canada.
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Comparative_military_ranks=

For me it looks like unavoidable polysemy of such= terms as "general", "admiral", "captain" etc.

On Sunday, September = 1, 2013 6:49:10 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
Yesterday I read "The Debut of Bimbashi Joyce". I thought "B= imbashi" was=20
Joyce's first name until I read "the Bimbashi". Then I looked it up and= found=20
out it's from Turkish, and there are also yuzbashis and ombashis. I'm g= uessing=20
that the Turkish words are translations of =CF=87=CE=B9=CE=BB=CE=B9=CE= =B1=CF=81=CF=87=CE=BF=CF=82, =CE=B5=CE=BA=CE=B1=CF=84=CE=BF=CE=BD=CF=84=CE= =B1=CF=81=CF=87=CE=BF=CF=82, and=20
whatever the Greeks called decurions. So I thought up ki'orja'a, ctoja'= a, and=20
dekyja'a. What do you think?

I just looked up "general" in vlasisku and found several words of the f= orm N-
moija'a. I think there was a proposal to take Chinese ranks and Europea= n ranks=20
and mash them together to create fu'ivla. What became of those words?

Pierre
--=20
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
J=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada, j=C3=A1 n=C3=A3o percebe nada.

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