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Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban: it's not for babies.
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.ienai pe'i lo nu le jbocifnu  cu cuxna lo glico mu'i lo ka se frili lo nu
bacru keiku na.e lo ka tirna gy ca piso'e lo donri .i ru'a va'o lo nu da'i
lo lojbo cu ralju  lo'i zdani bangu keiku ly se nelrai ru
                --gejyspa


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Robin Lee Powell <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> As of this week, sometimes.
>
> Up until then, not really, no; they'd simply elide one letter or the
> other; {dirba} -> "DIH-ba", "fart" -> "faht", "aunt" -> "aht".
>
> There are a lot more English words where that works without
> confusion, and a *LOT* more English words that simply don't have any
> significant consonant clusters.  They've been saying "banana" (or at
> least "nana") for ages, for example.
>
> This was my point: given the choice between a language with lots of
> words they can see, and one with lots they can't, they pick the
> former.
>
> -Robin
>
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:50:09AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > Can they do clusters /at all/?
> >
> >
> > Also, can they say "pigeon"? I ask because if they can say "pigeon", then
> > {cidja} shouldn't be too far down the road from pronounceable, I expect.
> >
> >
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">.ienai pe&#39;i lo nu le jbocifnu =A0cu cuxna lo glico mu&=
#39;i lo ka se frili lo nu bacru keiku na.e lo ka tirna gy ca piso&#39;e lo=
 donri .i ru&#39;a va&#39;o lo nu da&#39;i lo lojbo cu ralju =A0lo&#39;i zd=
ani bangu keiku ly se nelrai ru<div>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:01 AM, =
Robin Lee Powell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rlpowell@digitalki=
ngdom.org" target=3D"_blank">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As of this week, sometimes.<br>
<br>
Up until then, not really, no; they&#39;d simply elide one letter or the<br=
>
other; {dirba} -&gt; &quot;DIH-ba&quot;, &quot;fart&quot; -&gt; &quot;faht&=
quot;, &quot;aunt&quot; -&gt; &quot;aht&quot;.<br>
<br>
There are a lot more English words where that works without<br>
confusion, and a *LOT* more English words that simply don&#39;t have any<br=
>
significant consonant clusters. =A0They&#39;ve been saying &quot;banana&quo=
t; (or at<br>
least &quot;nana&quot;) for ages, for example.<br>
<br>
This was my point: given the choice between a language with lots of<br>
words they can see, and one with lots they can&#39;t, they pick the<br>
former.<br>
<br>
-Robin<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:50:09AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
&gt; Can they do clusters /at all/?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also, can they say &quot;pigeon&quot;? I ask because if they can say &=
quot;pigeon&quot;, then<br>
&gt; {cidja} shouldn&#39;t be too far down the road from pronounceable, I e=
xpect.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>

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