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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban: it's not for babies.
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:37:03 -0400
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On Monday, September 02, 2013 09:10:55 Michael Turniansky wrote:
>   ka zasti kei cipra .i ro da poi bangu zo'u lo rirni be lo mumei be'o no'u
> mi ka'e jungau do lo du'u lo selba'u be lo nanca be li ji'ire cu na jai
> frili fai lo nu jimpe va'o lo nu ba'e da verclubau be ra . ie la lojban
> vasru so'i zunsna  bakfu .i ku'i la gliban ji'a go'i  .ije la ru'oban go'i
> .i ru'a la spaban cu zmadu fi lo ka lo cifnu cu klina bacru ce'u.i
> jetnu du'o la'a do fa lo du'u lo selylai be lo valsi poi lo verba cu jimpe
> cu zmadu lo selylai be lo valsi poi lo verba cu bacru. i lo nu le jbocifnu
> cu jimbe cu se manci .i do gunka va'o lo banli nandu .i do'o xabju lo
> relbau zdani .ije do tavla fo lo mleca bangu .i lo da'i nu fliba cu na spaji

xu lo nu lo drata lojbo cu cafne vitke do gi'e tavla fo la .lojban. kei cu 
sidju?

.ita'o mi da'i cusku lu frili fai lo nu jimpe .iju makau velclibau da li'u

>   So, reality check here.  As a parent of 5, I can tell you, that
> articulation of almost-2-year-olds ain't exactly easy to understand no
> matter WHAT their native language is. And yes, lojban is chockful of
> consonant clusters, but so is English.  And Russian.  Presumably Spanish
> would be easier for toddlers to enunciate more clearly.  And it's always
> true, as I"m sure you know, that kids understand far more than what they
> can produce.  The fact they can and do understand it is great, though.  You
> are already working with two strikes against you since you are in a
> bilingual household, speaking the minority language.  Failure would not be
> surprising.

Would it help if other Lojbanists came over often and talked in Lojban?

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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