Received: from mail-ye0-f191.google.com ([209.85.213.191]:53554) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VGytu-00031z-HG for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:16:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ye0-f191.google.com with SMTP id l12sf1556861yen.18 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=w60tLBZbgn5clU+DyS58g7Uz4a2eIcW/mr3gGQQ/pxI=; b=lD8lG1J8Qc/X8AQZ81sYpwS2OKlEn+GKjQDSmeNRpbRE5nFvXW629tPxzn0yo+qjoL /P4kvMXbvfm9UaH2hPQcu91ycm3dV86pf0gaELhlw/d7w3ftyvOkp7tLMdUS34tPwK7t uvLugMub//VWWvsX3aBjerltFqwQ+dZGPoWBzsIqmGklm+VQLcoHWO8BsPMBB18y8CvL zLMNDs9/vRgGC0UAQsrnC2WCYYK9Mx7eX++nTs4xESuz3YGIWJDbU5KpNKlY1gJYJUsF y/yDFDkx6huH4Nh4YwM62e2pLZk6/FBtGzIdRWXDnri1/VVWMeiWx2S0M6hCYWqyAych l5kA== X-Received: by 10.49.64.72 with SMTP id m8mr96506qes.20.1378246596327; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.0.102 with SMTP id 6ls2687331qed.34.gmail; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.55.137 with SMTP id k9mr10805265yhc.39.1378246595990; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t6si2484124qcj.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0E931EF for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:16:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban: it's not for babies. Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 18:16:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3834605.6NoRKQFMZ5@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-51-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <522642B1.7010404@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, September 03, 2013 18:02:18 MorphemeAddict wrote: > I have never before heard that speech strings end in a glottal stop, > especially for English or Lojban. The denpa pu is not always a glottal > stop. It can be just absence of sound. No elision required. In some Semitic languages speech strings do end in a glottal stop, though when Adon Olam was written it was silent: lines ending in "ra'" rhyme indiscriminately with lines ending in "rah". In Lojban, though, there's no need to pronounce a glottal stop at the end of a sentence. Pierre -- sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.