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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: la .pier. cu cusku di'e > On Friday, September 13, 2013 15:29:49 selpa'i wrote: >> Use {vu'o}: >> >> "doi lo flatadni .e lo pricaio vu'o noi tradutxu'a ku'o do ..." > > ki'e do > >> I also replaced {do'o} with {do}. > > Is he talking about scribes and Pharisees in general, or just the ones at the > dinner? [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (seladwa[at]gmx.de) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid la .pier. cu cusku di'e > On Friday, September 13, 2013 15:29:49 selpa'i wrote: >> Use {vu'o}: >> >> "doi lo flatadni .e lo pricaio vu'o noi tradutxu'a ku'o do ..." > > ki'e do > >> I also replaced {do'o} with {do}. > > Is he talking about scribes and Pharisees in general, or just the ones at the > dinner? I think he is simply speaking to all Pharisees. To him, all Pharisees are the same (at least in this context), so {do} refers to all of them, whether or not they are present at the dinner. The problem with {do'o} would be that the "others" it involves needn't be other *Pharisees*, so I'd avoid it here. >> (I can't quite tell which verse from Matthew 23 this is, though I guess >> it's 23:27) > > It's Luke 11:44. Yeah, I realized right after sending the mail. But in Luke 11:44, he only addresses the Pharisees, not the teachers of the law, at least in the versions I have. (though the chapter as a whole is about both groups) mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.