Received: from mail-bk0-f64.google.com ([209.85.214.64]:61288) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VMdRt-0007Op-Gr for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:17 -0700 Received: by mail-bk0-f64.google.com with SMTP id na10sf819022bkb.29 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DdJ6yzQpqeLRKqfGkr+1A4RP1XA9sYG9GH4gk8ms11U=; b=uOIhWhQNvnI0IE0WFdkQxg3AP9u81IYz5aEoyEjpUMR8B4A7RiL2OC/Ti/57sh6mt8 D5IZJcBt6hwZqC5PbWu1qIKSU6nknyK4Y6V/rgHAI9XNV8rrlMDBTWJ+u/ddvLkPTFQW WVlUz33UXj9l8+U8kUXE69O67Mrz+rrof6c7qSaT08usZKVn0149HXSQQLftlWyXlaMD Vvw2DBgc9uY1vDdAr4+8yKoqtwaeQW/XDN3Ry5hsm1DWMMjSTuni7PKHCAClOJ3WSKag UZSRyI+a5cLysU+Nd2WdtZhal+VKpz3yG3q7IW0RzQfST6Qfu0tqpaacEND/ncl7dEXl Lk2w== X-Received: by 10.180.39.41 with SMTP id m9mr484140wik.19.1379594101750; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.206.110 with SMTP id ln14ls150334wic.6.canary; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.238.69 with SMTP id kr5mr128866bkb.0.1379594101329; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t5si507964bkh.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::232; Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id gx14so1861805lab.23 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.167.66 with SMTP id zm2mr1074872lbb.46.1379594100975; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.180.36 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.180.36 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:35:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 06:35:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: APE: Equivalent? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c38ba252af8504e6bbc8e6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c38ba252af8504e6bbc8e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sep 19, 2013 6:31 AM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: > > This Audience Participation Exercise comes in three questions. I expect, encourage, and ask for CALM debate, however, as we have a no-debate/no arguing policy on the nintadni list, please restrict all debate to the main one. > > {ko'a jungau ko'e lo na'e jetnu .i ru na'e jungau ra lo jetnu .i ru bacru noda} > "He tells them something other than the truth. He does something other than tell them the truth. He says nothing." > > 1: What circumstances can be described by /only one/ of the first two bridi? (I'd like examples both ways, please.) (Also, don't try to be exhaustive. Leave some for others, please.) > 2: What circumstances can be described by /both/ of the first two bridi? (Again, not exhaustive.) > 3: I think the last bridi is an example answer for 2. Why am I right or wrong? > > Also, if you like this kind of APE, let me know, I'll think of others. I imagine this will be easier than trying to think of new ways to get you to jbociska, like the earlier set was. ;) > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi mu'o mi'e .aionys. to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c38ba252af8504e6bbc8e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sep 19, 2013 6:31 AM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This Audience Participation Exercise comes in three questions. I expect, encourage, and ask for CALM debate, however, as we have a no-debate/no arguing policy on the nintadni list, please restrict all debate to the main one.
>
> {ko'a jungau ko'e lo na'e jetnu .i ru na'e jungau ra lo jetnu .i ru bacru noda}
> "He tells them something other than the truth. He does something other than tell them the truth. He says nothing."
>
> 1: What circumstances can be described by /only one/ of the first two bridi? (I'd like examples both ways, please.)
(Also, don't try to be exhaustive. Leave some for others, please.)
> 2: What circumstances can be described by /both/ of the first two bridi?
(Again, not exhaustive.)
> 3: I think the last bridi is an example answer for 2. Why am I right or wrong?
>
> Also, if you like this kind of APE, let me know, I'll think of others. I imagine this will be easier than trying to think of new ways to get you to jbociska, like the earlier set was. ;)
>
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi

mu'o mi'e .aionys.

to ti benji lo mi samterci'a be la.android. toi

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