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 Content preview:  Working with this and related lists gets somewhat easier if
    the various things listed here get divided into groups of similar items.
   Lumping them together as aspects waters down similarities, hides differences,
    and generally misrepresents the situations. At least three groups leap to
    eye: contour aspects (aspects proper in some descriptions), distribution
   aspects (patterns of recurrence or not) and intensity aspect (probably not
    an aspect at all since not temporal). There seem also to be other factors
    here that are less clearly classified and seem more derivational and generally
    lexical than aspects are usually thought to be. [...] 
 
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Working with this and related lists gets somewhat easier if the various thi=
ngs listed here get divided into groups of similar items.  Lumping them tog=
ether as aspects waters down similarities, hides differences, and generally=
 misrepresents the situations.  At least three groups leap to eye: contour =
aspects (aspects proper in some descriptions), distribution aspects (patter=
ns of recurrence or not) and intensity aspect (probably not an aspect at al=
l since not temporal).  There seem also to be other factors here that are l=
ess clearly classified and seem more derivational and generally lexical tha=
n aspects are usually thought to be.

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On Sep 22, 2013, at 13:10, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:

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> mu'o mi'e ianek
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> On Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:55:30 PM UTC+2, la arxokuna wrote:
> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Stub:_Grammatical_Aspects_and_Lojban
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Working with this and rel=
ated lists gets somewhat easier if the various things listed here get divid=
ed into groups of similar items. &nbsp;Lumping them together as aspects wat=
ers down similarities, hides differences, and generally misrepresents the s=
ituations. &nbsp;At least three groups leap to eye: contour aspects (aspect=
s proper in some descriptions), distribution aspects (patterns of recurrenc=
e or not) and intensity aspect (probably not an aspect at all since not tem=
poral). &nbsp;There seem also to be other factors here that are less clearl=
y classified and seem more derivational and generally lexical than aspects =
are usually thought to be.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Sep 22=
, 2013, at 13:10, ianek &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:janek37@gmail.com">janek37@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">The page you're pointing to for reference has been excl=
uded from the archive.<br><br>mu'o mi'e ianek<br><br>On Sunday, September 2=
2, 2013 2:55:30 PM UTC+2, la arxokuna wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/St=
ub:_Grammatical_Aspects_and_Lojban" target=3D"_blank">http://mw.lojban.org/=
index.<wbr>php/Stub:_Grammatical_Aspects_<wbr>and_Lojban</a><br></div></blo=
ckquote></div>

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