Received: from mail-yh0-f63.google.com ([209.85.213.63]:41567) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VOJgB-0008OU-1O for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:52:55 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f63.google.com with SMTP id z20sf1072590yhz.18 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:52:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xMGEOlGD+DNlPuYtXLehZnhzI5FJfyPMo+ULVAOuIxU=; b=NuhN6woq+o8NG8jc/QOxNeEwn/oa60mlLsQ0YEHr/r4wrMuUzkYEuzvy89xCn8LAVS UlX4bNGIyVQvAkcccDRi08kw+nS9WW08Dg8qLPLk3EHHsuqzshGv06XKI/piHB2ZuO9m J9XaQKy2/sm5w8eesN5dLtzkZNH6HG7RRL7a/SOamLMbDBbPulAbZBPW6Y9YGgbKUoU2 5MEq/6Sn+TQD/1qgOFXpHKi0gnNmc97ZeHlPB2SuTswuUO0TVg6xvBqJDn16gfec0bPY 3fxg3mlTjDfDlKq8LZoNJXwaU2UKGyTItPcuFoLZi7mJQa5CuA0OxqXAzBvz6sLL88QZ ZzUw== X-Received: by 10.49.14.132 with SMTP id p4mr1056758qec.2.1379994764699; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.25.66 with SMTP id a2ls1518304qeg.95.gmail; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.126.137 with SMTP id c9mr11977197qas.2.1379994763917; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bc1si4500895qcb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62F3319D for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:52:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:52:42 -0400 Message-ID: <2534215.iy3FthA11r@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-53-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4826829.TDgBt4GNPr@caracal> <19706477.VOTKt9OGP6@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Monday, September 23, 2013 15:17:26 Michael Turniansky wrote: > So... wondering why you use pricaio and not "pruci-", in keeping with the > Aramaic/Hebrew whence it comes. It's "prisha" in Aramaic. Some words, such as some participles, have "-u-" in Hebrew and "-i-" in Aramaic. > Sidenote -- interesting that he uses the metaphor of walking on a hidden > grave, since the whole import of that is the laws of tumah (ritual > impurity) (walking over a buried person imparts tumah which is very > difficult to get rid of, and a cohen (priest) is not allowed to do it at > all, and others would be forbidden in engaging in certain ritual acts while > in this state. But since J often makes a point of downplaying the whole > purity system (and upbraiding the Pharisees for their rigid adherence to > it), it seems a strange metaphor to use. Is tumah from walking over a buried person by a lo-cohen in the written Torah, or is it a taqanah or fence or something? mi tatpi lo nu zukti so'ida .i le ckana bene'i le bu'uzda cu denpa tu'a mi mu'omi'e .pier. -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.