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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:46:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:58:14 Michael Turniansky wrote:
> >      Maybe in Palestinian Aramaic of NT times(?  But I don't know. what's
> > your source?)  But not in Talmudic Aramaic.  It's still -u-.  See for
> > example, Kiddushin, 66a (
> http://images.e-daf.com/DafImg.asp?ID=2758&size=3
> > ) in the middle column, middle of the line that's one line below where it
> > says "Mai" in big letters on the left column.
>
> zoi zoi. prucim .zoi xebro sordaivla .ije lo drata valsi bene'i le vlali'i
> cu
> xebro .iku'i lo drata vlali'i cu vasru lo .armaio valsi
>

  sordaivla ki'a .i le veljvo no'u lu so'i dacti valsi li'u cu jai selsre
la'a .i ku'i  do fa'u mi simlu lo ka drani ku fa'u lo ka srera .i mi pu na
tcidu co jundi .i mi no'e birti lo du'u ki'u makau lo se sitna cu brobau .i
la'acu'i  se krinu lo du'u lo te sitna cu selsku lo bropre ca lo nu lo
xesnai cu turni lo xebro seni'i lo nu tavla fo lo brobau

 .i ko cazi catlu la'o talmud Pesachim 70a talmud fi'o judri la'o net
http://images.e-daf.com/DafImg.asp?ID=782&size=1 net se di'o le midju be lo
papri .i mulno armaio


> I have the Aramaic English New Testament, which is the 1905 Peshitta cross-
> edited with the Khabouris Codex; footnotes indicate where the texts differ.
> It's in square script, but the nequdot look like they were transliterated
> from
> Syriac script. There are no schwas, and /o/ and /u/ are written as qamats
> waw
> and qubuts waw instead of cholam and shuruq.
>
> > > mi tatpi lo nu zukti so'ida .i le ckana bene'i le bu'uzda cu denpa
> tu'a mi
> >
> > xu do  skudji zo zukte
>
> go'i .i mi pu tatpi
>  <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>
>

>
 do puza tatpi ba'e je'u je'e zo'o

                                         --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:58:14 =
Michael Turniansky wrote:<br>

&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0Maybe in Palestinian Aramaic of NT times(? =A0But I don&#39=
;t know. what&#39;s<br>
&gt; your source?) =A0But not in Talmudic Aramaic. =A0It&#39;s still -u-. =
=A0See for<br>
&gt; example, Kiddushin, 66a ( <a href=3D"http://images.e-daf.com/DafImg.as=
p?ID=3D2758&amp;size=3D3" target=3D"_blank">http://images.e-daf.com/DafImg.=
asp?ID=3D2758&amp;size=3D3</a><br>
&gt; ) in the middle column, middle of the line that&#39;s one line below w=
here it<br>
&gt; says &quot;Mai&quot; in big letters on the left column.<br>
<br>
</div>zoi zoi. prucim .zoi xebro sordaivla .ije lo drata valsi bene&#39;i l=
e vlali&#39;i cu<br>
xebro .iku&#39;i lo drata vlali&#39;i cu vasru lo .armaio valsi<br></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>=A0 sordaivla ki&#39;a .i le veljvo no&#39;u lu so=
&#39;i dacti valsi li&#39;u cu jai selsre la&#39;a .i ku&#39;i =A0do fa&#39=
;u mi simlu lo ka drani ku fa&#39;u lo ka srera .i mi pu na tcidu co jundi =
.i mi no&#39;e birti lo du&#39;u ki&#39;u makau lo se sitna cu brobau .i la=
&#39;acu&#39;i =A0se krinu lo du&#39;u lo te sitna cu selsku lo bropre ca l=
o nu lo xesnai cu turni lo xebro seni&#39;i lo nu tavla fo lo brobau</div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0.i ko cazi catlu la&#39;o talmud Pesachim 70a talmud=
 fi&#39;o judri la&#39;o net=A0<a href=3D"http://images.e-daf.com/DafImg.as=
p?ID=3D782&amp;size=3D1">http://images.e-daf.com/DafImg.asp?ID=3D782&amp;si=
ze=3D1</a>=A0net se di&#39;o le midju be lo papri .i mulno armaio=A0</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-lef=
t-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
I have the Aramaic English New Testament, which is the 1905 Peshitta cross-=
<br>
edited with the Khabouris Codex; footnotes indicate where the texts differ.=
<br>
It&#39;s in square script, but the nequdot look like they were transliterat=
ed from<br>
Syriac script. There are no schwas, and /o/ and /u/ are written as qamats w=
aw<br>
and qubuts waw instead of cholam and shuruq.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; &gt; mi tatpi lo nu zukti so&#39;ida .i le ckana bene&#39;i le bu&#39;=
uzda cu denpa tu&#39;a mi<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; xu do =A0skudji zo zukte<br>
<br>
</div>go&#39;i .i mi pu tatpi<br>
<div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/grou=
ps/opt_out" target=3D"_blank"></a></div></div></blockquote><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;b=
order-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>
<div class=3D""><div class=3D"h5"><font color=3D"#222222">=A0</font></div><=
/div></blockquote><div>=A0do puza tatpi ba&#39;e je&#39;u je&#39;e zo&#39;o=
</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa</div>
<div>=A0=A0</div></div><br></div></div>

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