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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello everyone, this is my first mail to this list. I recently found out about Lojban and have been spending a lot of time reading about it. When learning languages, I prefer to first get a very broad overview before focusing on the details. Once I am more familiar with the big picture I can better tell where all the little things I learn go in the grand scheme of things. So, I have been reading as much as I could fine online; mostly tiki pages and some old mailing list conversations, but I also saw some comments on the facebook group that interested me. I understand the language is currently in a flux, though I cannot quite tell what the officials' stance on anything is. I have seen talk of certain proposed changes, and I'd be interested to know what I should think of them and also what their status is, specifically the 'dotside' reform, the thing about connectives getting reduced (I hope you know what I mean), and what I think was called 'cmevla as a class of brivla' (I wasn't really able to follow the discussions). Also, I saw some people using different accent marks sometimes, Does this mean I can capitalize words, since capital letters were previously used for stress marking purposes? I hope I didn't ask too many questions! 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When learning languages, I prefer to first get a very broad overview before focusing on the details. Once I am more familiar with the big picture I can better tell where all the little things I learn go in the grand scheme of things. So, I have been reading as much as I could fine online; mostly tiki pages and some old mailing list conversations, but I also saw some comments on the facebook group that interested me. I understand the language is currently in a flux, though I cannot quite tell what the officials' stance on anything is. I have seen talk of certain proposed changes, and I'd be interested to know what I should think of them and also what their status is, specifically the 'dotside' reform, the thing about connectives getting reduced (I hope you know what I mean), and what I think was called 'cmevla as a class of brivla' (I wasn't really able to follow the discussions). Also, I saw some people using different accent marks sometimes, Does this mean I can capitalize words, since capital letters were previously used for stress marking purposes? I hope I didn't ask too many questions! mi'e Ucauricu'um (I hope I said that right) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --089e0118470a8f084104e7c1dc07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone,

this is my first mail t= o this list. I recently found out about Lojban and have been spending a lot= of time reading about it. When learning languages, I prefer to first get a= very broad overview before focusing on the details. Once I am more familia= r with the big picture I can better tell where all the little things I lear= n go in the grand scheme of things. So, I have been reading as much as I co= uld fine online; mostly tiki pages and some old mailing list conversations,= but I also saw some comments on the facebook group that interested me. I u= nderstand the language is currently in a flux, though I cannot quite tell w= hat the officials' stance on anything is. I have seen talk of certain p= roposed changes, and I'd be interested to know what I should think of t= hem and also what their status is, specifically the 'dotside' refor= m, the thing about connectives getting reduced (I hope you know what I mean= ), and what I think was called 'cmevla as a class of brivla' (I was= n't really able to follow the discussions). Also, I saw some people usi= ng different accent marks sometimes, Does this mean I can capitalize words,= since capital letters were previously used for stress marking purposes?
I hope I didn't ask too many questions!

= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mi'e Ucauricu'um (I hope I said that right)

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