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Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 3 Topics
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Greetings:

Find myself studying my Chinese brush painting instead of loglan like
I ought...but do we know which has better extant voice control
software in linux, loglan or Chinese?

And how that came to be?

Best,

RL

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> Group: lojban@googlegroups.com
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics
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>   - A new member has some questions [2 Updates]
>     http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/4b008643308dd4a5
>   - flazautrugri zajmi [1 Update]
>     http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/394e3f3675e3e05
>   - How can I use tatoeba sentence.csv files with goldendict? [2
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>     http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/ef999c6c04ecdd29
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> Topic: A new member has some questions
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/4b008643308dd4a5
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> From: Lormoral King <ucauricuhum@gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 02 03:15PM +0200
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/ff5620a707eb524d
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> this is my first mail to this list. I recently found out about Lojban
> and
> have been spending a lot of time reading about it. When learning
> languages,
> I prefer to first get a very broad overview before focusing on the
> details.
> Once I am more familiar with the big picture I can better tell where
> all
> the little things I learn go in the grand scheme of things. So, I have
> been
> reading as much as I could fine online; mostly tiki pages and some old
> mailing list conversations, but I also saw some comments on the
> facebook
> group that interested me. I understand the language is currently in a
> flux,
> though I cannot quite tell what the officials' stance on anything is.
> I
> have seen talk of certain proposed changes, and I'd be interested to
> know
> what I should think of them and also what their status is,
> specifically the
> 'dotside' reform, the thing about connectives getting reduced (I hope
> you
> know what I mean), and what I think was called 'cmevla as a class of
> brivla' (I wasn't really able to follow the discussions). Also, I saw
> some
> people using different accent marks sometimes, Does this mean I can
> capitalize words, since capital letters were previously used for
> stress
> marking purposes?
> I hope I didn't ask too many questions!
>
>         mi'e Ucauricu'um (I hope I said that right)
>
>
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> From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
> Date: Oct 02 08:01AM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/db086f009e607964
>
> As a long-time, and generally outside, observer of Lojban, I encourage
> you to get into the language more fully. =A0The basics are easy and
> satisfying, the details perhaps less so. =A0
> But to your questions. =A0Officially, Lojban is not in a state of flux.
> =A0It is the language of CLL with a few long-established corrections.
> =A0It will remain that until the completion of the mythical baseline,
> after which suggestions for change will be entertained. =A0To be sure,
> the committee for establishing the baseline does not appear to have
> met for many years, has not recently (if ever) released a report or
> made a survey, and, indeed, may not be constituted at the moment. =A0In
> its absence -- and before it was constituted, indeed, since the moment
> of creation of Lojban -- people have been suggesting changes,
> "improvements", and using these non-standard forms freely, with or
> without the cooperation or understanding of other Lojbanists. =A0Some of
> these innovations have been generally, sometimes even
> quasi-officially, accepted. =A0Along with CLL, these latter few are
> worth knowing.
> One such is clearly dot-side, the requirement that every name be
> completely surrounded by pauses to distinguish it from other
> structures which may have the same form -- and to remove some
> technical phonetic restrictions on names in CLL.
> On the other hand, the reduction in the number of connectives and the
> collapse of the class of cmevla to the class of brivla are not
> established even though, for the second, the difference is essentially
> terminological and, for the first, is a desirable goal for both
> simplification and logical clarity. =A0
> The various ways of doing stress (only in names, of course, since
> stress is otherwise fixed) are mainly matters of personal aesthetics.
> =A0Just know the possibilities and act accordingly. =A0I don't think it
> will ever be a Lojban style to use capital letters purely to indicate
> proper nouns or the like; this is adequately handled phonologically
> and syntactically.
> These are all pretty much details, to be worried about -- if at all --
> after you have come to some degree of proficiency with basics, like
> getting atomic structures right and moving pieces around with ease.
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Lormoral King <ucauricuhum@gmail.com>
> To: lojban@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 8:15 AM
> Subject: [lojban] A new member has some questions
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> this is my first mail to this list. I recently found out about Lojban
> and have been spending a lot of time reading about it. When learning
> languages, I prefer to first get a very broad overview before focusing
> on the details. Once I am more familiar with the big picture I can
> better tell where all the little things I learn go in the grand scheme
> of things. So, I have been reading as much as I could fine online;
> mostly tiki pages and some old mailing list conversations, but I also
> saw some comments on the facebook group that interested me. I
> understand the language is currently in a flux, though I cannot quite
> tell what the officials' stance on anything is. I have seen talk of
> certain proposed changes, and I'd be interested to know what I should
> think of them and also what their status is, specifically the
> 'dotside' reform, the thing about connectives getting reduced (I hope
> you know what I mean), and what I think was called 'cmevla as a class
> of brivla'
>  (I wasn't really able to follow the discussions). Also, I saw some
> people using different accent marks sometimes, Does this mean I can
> capitalize words, since capital letters were previously used for
> stress marking purposes?
> I hope I didn't ask too many questions!
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mi'e Ucauricu'um (I hope I said that right)
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> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/394e3f3675e3e05
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> From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 02 10:00AM -0400
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/d99c020e00029af5
>
> mi ca jimpe lo du'u mu'i makau cmene fa lu mikulski li'u
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>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfeO8Z2Gmvm8
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>             --gejyspa
>
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> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/t/ef999c6c04ecdd29
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> From: kenn <atilla.karaca@gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 01 09:16AM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/176f8ba050c5bc11
>
> Hi,
>  Is it possible to use sentence.csv file in goldendict? If so how can
> I do
> that? It also needs links.csv file and they must be merged as much as
> I
> know. Could anybody help me with it?
>
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> From: la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
> Date: Oct 01 11:25PM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/15ae72ae820a5edc
>
> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:16:37 PM UTC+4, kenn wrote:
>
>>  Is it possible to use sentence.csv file in goldendict? If so how
>> can I do
>> that? It also needs links.csv file and they must be merged as much
>> as I
>> know. Could anybody help me with it?
>
> Yes, there used to be a
> script<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/S7BKTq1HHAg/discussion>
> .
> Once najrut made a dictionary
> <https://sites.google.com/site/slovlacukt/file-cabinet>for
> that but it's probably outdated now.
>
>
>
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