Received: from mail-pa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.220.61]:64393) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VRqNa-0005u8-8E for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:21 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id rd3sf651028pab.6 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xTgXgm8vlS+9NU+wZSqXH3gl2/n8Ifd+ag/7OMp6GzI=; b=UnQ9Sibm/hPMqkrmFSG06czNaL7ajlzfYVbJ5ohyYICYXMb868DWTaXX1ytEHNM8z5 Ne1hkPvv9/tolGpVZgenmPwxE/ir8whcmkkACkTugAT12qX0lH3Ld/mRkbq2r9YCHyUb VaIiVc+lFWSbjOx9Ut3s8fnsctRzeM9oDoqbFrmPSVPaTtbJRAYwzlFeU1Vm9ZSCo0zK ugo+kY5veIyYOqc1bTCbr+waMHQF9RZXgg774SFgz+hBttA4byhVgRl7NiKdU1HklFMl 4b0kQvB7WbSJT8lt7Pkd/Uqt7XQ++j4u4oCxzTFNgVjhGmvVaB3dSYMaUoh3C23aqExz YjBA== X-Received: by 10.49.48.68 with SMTP id j4mr146641qen.13.1380835447797; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.5.9 with SMTP id o9ls1124907qeo.49.gmail; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.163.67 with SMTP id z43mr10055896yhk.27.1380835447230; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22c.google.com (mail-qa0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bc1si1962800qcb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c; Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j7so418248qaq.17 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.37.198 with SMTP id y6mr4766482qad.104.1380835447124; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.63.161 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:23:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8D08DAC0705BEED-E34-41DDD@webmail-d263.sysops.aol.com> <48cd77a8-350c-472c-b0f7-e1f527500707@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 17:23:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Letter Frequency in lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2a0ee51b8c504e7dcce18 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c2a0ee51b8c504e7dcce18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow, all five primary vowels at the top of the list before any consonants. I had no idea Lojban was so vowel-heavy. stevo On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Here's the percentages: > 12.647984 i > 11.213137 a > 9.436481 o > 8.084142 u > 6.767455 e > 6.261382 l > 5.367454 ' > 5.209965 n > 4.487678 c > 3.953422 m > 3.207746 s > 3.144874 d > 2.885442 k > 2.830377 r > 2.415451 t > 1.964541 p > 1.833611 b > 1.816332 j > 1.585890 z > 1.447408 g > 1.046162 v > 0.961253 f > 0.872879 x > 0.558923 y > 0.000010 , > 0.000001 . > 0.000000 > --gejyspa > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > >> Well, using that corpus (which involves non-workds like "gejko", but >> no instances of "gejyspa", so how accurate is that? ;-P ) The frequency >> table is: >> iaouel'ncmsdkrtpbjzgvfxy,. (capital letters normalized to small) >> >> --gejyspa >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:08 AM, la arxokuna wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:29:05 PM UTC+4, tsofian wrote: >>>> >>>> What is the frequency of letter use in lojban? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Terry >>>> >>> >>> There is an updated *word* frequency list >>> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=935 >>> >>> you can use that to count letter frequencies. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Wow, all five primary vowels at the top of the list before= any consonants. I had no idea Lojban was so vowel-heavy.=A0

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stevo


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Michael Turniansky <<= a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mturniansky@gmail= .com> wrote:
=A0 Here's the percentages:
=A012.647984 =A0 = i
=A011.213137 =A0 a
=A0 9.436481 =A0 o
=A0 8= .084142 =A0 u
=A0 6.767455 =A0 e
=A0 6.261382 =A0 l
=A0 5.367454 =A0 '
=A0 5.209965 =A0 n
=A0 4.487678 =A0 c
=A0 3.953422= =A0 m
=A0 3.207746 =A0 s
=A0 3.144874 =A0 d
= =A0 2.885442 =A0 k
=A0 2.830377 =A0 r
=A0 2.415451 =A0 = t
=A0 1.964541 =A0 p
=A0 1.833611 =A0 b
=A0 1.816332 =A0 j
=A0 1.585890= =A0 z
=A0 1.447408 =A0 g
=A0 1.046162 =A0 v
= =A0 0.961253 =A0 f
=A0 0.872879 =A0 x
=A0 0.558923 =A0 = y
=A0 0.000010 =A0 ,
=A0 0.000001 =A0 .
=A0 0.000000
=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa



On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturni= ansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 =A0 =A0Well, using that= corpus (which involves non-workds like "gejko", but no instances= of "gejyspa", so how accurate is that? ;-P ) =A0 The frequency t= able is:
iaouel'ncmsdkrtpbjzgvfxy,. =A0(capital letters normalized to small)

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa



On Thu,= Oct 3, 2013 at 1:08 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

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