Received: from mail-vb0-f57.google.com ([209.85.212.57]:61820) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VT3Xc-0008Pa-JG for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:39:48 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f57.google.com with SMTP id w16sf1494544vbb.2 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:39:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=En8L+kewcLDNQxFqzoGSVV/gFVlBZRER4b8TLCvNx5M=; b=i8TlM3SJslwnTazdsJgnlloYhwBchOh/9O5zNPIGcUYU0+Yvw+zhwVahH7YfbUwinT CMSokHdfSGajaaKObqJwyTSFru+f1uE9yQek2NuaeCCYXERgQCvXp1ISRy0zElCL/397 zy3fTf6U0vNCTcA89HQDXPDlb49p+id16WQRCe/jEtJu56nSHGAGiMnhN6H6NaSxZCNX alCt6oavxZggvcfoALUDyYIFktrQL4s5QM2UwD2VF0hOPwBSqSa4q7JXPqjRKNBQ1xlM mkh04rr4Q4T2ntfQUqHKp8llocYMvEoI9df7vzgAtlF2ToU27aT3p2qldqBbmkjoLN5r k1GA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=En8L+kewcLDNQxFqzoGSVV/gFVlBZRER4b8TLCvNx5M=; b=aUoySxijwSHLNgyWJAt/YD1jyYlhZC0VYgiS+mwvB+krjZEXZ6BEh1+DH2CcUWk/xZ 8pEXzF82Z0MXdDnnyQabOGjjy8ZCM2QrIf9YyTnoT2XFyFTIJrsNSVNajoKaPULvpGnC ra1jVO1Ddjo6KYso5VC0vXkKYwcHFdh1E7Jw8ma90R5uabjKw+fxXydK0/6bD6rM1rnw N1Xy2eOSXTHK2kiywFtnGI8PR0vxji9c9Acx3qd8A/tPx/lgFd0b3G2687hZUC4aRDL5 Y7ah64cNXRyA7hqwloBsJkhZKJTdB+l3Ff7OsRnB4CU0BJVK6yfLEw+3AqcpopQdqd6z u7ng== X-Received: by 10.49.101.17 with SMTP id fc17mr938qeb.29.1381124370135; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.16.200 with SMTP id i8ls2264256qed.65.gmail; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:39:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.105.33 with SMTP id gj1mr758qeb.32.1381124369854; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 22:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: la arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0477e1da-dcf7-43cf-ad5f-014e71f6c7ee@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <4230371.UbVIEdFtBm@caracal> References: <4230371.UbVIEdFtBm@caracal> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new member has some questions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2585_25546248.1381124369424" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2585_25546248.1381124369424 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, October 7, 2013 9:21:34 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Saturday, October 05, 2013 04:55:28 Jonathan Jones wrote:=20 > > On a slight tangent, has anyone proposed /which/ accent mark to use, or= =20 > is=20 > > it still entirely user preference as to which of =C3=A0=C3=A3=C3=A2=C3= =A1=C3=A4=C4=81 to use?=20 > > If I'm using an accent to mark the stress, and the language the name came= =20 > from=20 > has a simple stress or pitch accent (not different ways a syllable can be= =20 > stressed), I always use the acute accent. If it has a tonal pitch accent= =20 > or is=20 > tonal, I may use more than one accent. If the word doesn't have a stresse= d=20 > syllable, I'm not sure how to indicate that, as the pronunciation rules= =20 > specify which syllable to stress by default.=20 > > I have ideas about the default stress (the rules in the Book are=20 > incomplete=20 > when cmevla are involved). Should I discuss it openly in the list or=20 > privately=20 > with someone (probably xorxes)?=20 > > Privacy is not the best policy imo. If this list is inappropriate for such= =20 topic fi'o jinvi do then you might wanna=20 use http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Special:AWCforum/ for that informing=20 others that u posted a question there. Pierre=20 > --=20 > sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera=20 > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_2585_25546248.1381124369424 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Monday, October 7, 2013 9:21:34 AM UTC+4, Pierr= e Abbat wrote:
On Saturday, Oct= ober 05, 2013 04:55:28 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On a slight tangent, has anyone proposed /which/ accent mark to us= e, or is
> it still entirely user preference as to which of =C3=A0=C3=A3=C3= =A2=C3=A1=C3=A4=C4=81 to use?

If I'm using an accent to mark the stress, and the language the name ca= me from=20
has a simple stress or pitch accent (not different ways a syllable can = be=20
stressed), I always use the acute accent. If it has a tonal pitch accen= t or is=20
tonal, I may use more than one accent. If the word doesn't have a stres= sed=20
syllable, I'm not sure how to indicate that, as the pronunciation rules= =20
specify which syllable to stress by default.

I have ideas about the default stress (the rules in the Book are incomp= lete=20
when cmevla are involved). Should I discuss it openly in the list or pr= ivately=20
with someone (probably xorxes)?


Privacy is not the best policy imo. &n= bsp;If this list is inappropriate for such topic fi'o jinvi do then you mig= ht wanna use http://mw.lojban.org/index.php/Special:AWCforum/ for that= informing others that u posted a question there.

=
Pierre
--=20
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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