Received: from mail-ye0-f185.google.com ([209.85.213.185]:44041) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VUkAG-0002Lq-7B for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:22:33 -0700 Received: by mail-ye0-f185.google.com with SMTP id m4sf378223yen.22 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=cixz8dJyX3y4z4iIe3IgZW3znt/i+K2RzjUCefsJkn8=; b=Cdo327XaCS+LY2yCT4KlqJnkefhPK/So7uqpGX7G74ECR0s36ghVPNsIVtZ5GC18AZ IGQEBT/Iyl9jxHCpNkdhcloK1ts4kUDsf0ckD6jiqNESqrPTlYee+xYWqYXDvHLjEYkp lcSajdn+K6Tavr9zBA3kG8F8dQuyZgIrAYo14YQD6Jnsk+0/Qnl65UKa6UZglAsNVzhO oOPLyXRpS/jIy0gW/gGSvVkpVuOTKCpu6yDM8yym8U+AirAPS24iAS7hDPZh0pdbaY3X PlujCx7oMEqU1cpt+C+hzETZsibI6kasW2fdtB45Q5wi1N6fuB+7SGJCC72QwPFJcCoN 5fXQ== X-Received: by 10.50.9.33 with SMTP id w1mr166662iga.12.1381526541885; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.73.164 with SMTP id m4ls601890igv.15.gmail; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.102.100 with SMTP id fn4mr5659477pab.47.1381526541296; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bc1si338740qcb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834C83D76 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:22:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Default stressed vowel Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:22:19 -0400 Message-ID: <2545036.16pV2QPK6q@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-53-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Here's how I propose to determine which is the default stressed vowel (or= =20 default stressed consonant, if there are no vowels) in a word (brivla or=20 cmevla; a brivla is always stressed on the default vowel): 1. Remove all commas. 2. Separate syllables, working from right to left. soiombos -> so,iom,bos not soi,om,bos 3. If the next-to-last vocalic syllable does not have 'y' as its only vowel= ,=20 stress it. kra,tai,go -> kra,TAI,go ui,liym,syn -> ui,LIYM,syn Else, if a syllable before that does not have 'y' as its only vowel, stress= =20 it. ge,jy,spa -> GE,jy,spa Else, if the last vocalic syllable does not have 'y' as its only vowel, str= ess=20 it. syb,my,rin -> syb,my,RIN Else stress the next-to-last vocalic syllable, if any. sy,myr,tyn -> sy,MYR,tyn Else, stress the only vocalic syllable, if any. tain -> TAIN Else, stress the next-to-last syllable, if any. cl,sn -> CL,sn Else, stress the only consonantal syllable. r -> R 4. Place the stress on one vowel or syllabic consonant, the most prominent= =20 vowel in a diphthong or triphthong. kra,TAI,go -> kra,t=E1i,go TAIN -> t=E1in FUI,ste -> fu=ED,ste spa,tr,XA,pio -> spa,tr,x=E1,pio Which vowel or syllabic consonant is stressed by default is independent of= =20 where one puts syllable breaks. If you say "spatrxapio" with the last two= =20 letters in different syllables, you still have to stress the 'a', not the '= i'.=20 Similarly, if you say "krata,igo", you stress it "krat=E1,igo". In a cmevla, if the stress is not marked, it is assumed to be on the defaul= t=20 vowel; if that vowel is in a diphthong, the diphthong is stressed. If the= =20 stress is somewhere else, it must be marked. I'm not sure how to indicate t= hat=20 there is no stress. Pierre --=20 The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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