Received: from mail-ie0-f192.google.com ([209.85.223.192]:37332) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VWvC8-00053i-5t for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:30 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f192.google.com with SMTP id aq17sf498278iec.9 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=y1NDKCnnRG3csltMNDVTDJUS9JmKBT9f5t7jIDey3cs=; b=NOl6BNi5KoswNGhAwI98NxepyGVDwvQao+kndZdO9uHkzEcokGmtCuf7R8OE+10p4P n2rOSJosBVK/z9bj9vaxOw0TrCtu0zDReQTy34mht01e9ZacACboa6mlj6efgq7+Er1N fAYmZPO1PpJSGQ2yQsg72k0JcW8FdzSFs9DMVsRE60U4KYBrfuh+Kkdr27eOsk+sh1us eI4FRy9lMfAam8BNWbWYicQaWxvcB24fAITB9ZhW6iXb5SpyJvrjv2uuUaQ2a2RpCU7B Mv0pk76K7zLrF8yULNndnr6DbQm1oWW88OTWtcAcow67FCNkSJAASm+aujKYIfd+UMxc 4HZw== X-Received: by 10.49.48.38 with SMTP id i6mr156880qen.4.1382045598082; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.109.102 with SMTP id hr6ls1064272qeb.13.gmail; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.147.70 with SMTP id ti6mr3568891veb.8.1382045596702; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22e.google.com (mail-qa0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si1435902qcj.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e; Received: by mail-qa0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id j15so77720qaq.5 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.72.81 with SMTP id l17mr170524qaj.54.1382045596623; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.18.33 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:33:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8D08DD6D4B84B56-1B60-4652F@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> <2503606.Kt8G23bMfr@caracal> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:33:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban for one dozen dozen, a gross or 144 From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd74d04d9aa4b04e8f690bf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bd74d04d9aa4b04e8f690bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Using "pare" as the argument to "ju'u" is asking for trouble, since interpreting its meaning depends upon the base you are in! Every numbering system thinks it's in base "10". That's why gai is a safer choice. --gejyspa On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM, wrote: > Back on topic: I think the essential idea would be best represented by {li > pano ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}. > > On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:08:22 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 17:19:21 Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> > I could be wrong and it's {sovjipci}, not {jipcyso'a}, but I don't >>> think so. >>> >>> That would be an egg chicken. I'd just say "sovda", as long as it's >>> clear from >>> the context that they are chicken eggs and that they are not laid by >>> roosters. >>> Or are you asking which came first? >>> >> >> No, sometimes I get which part goes first in a lujvo backwards. In this >> case, I was pretty sure that a "chicken egg" is {jipcyso'a}, but just in >> case.... >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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=A0 Using "pare" as the argument to "ju'= ;u" is asking for trouble, since interpreting its meaning depends upon= the base you are in! Every numbering system thinks it's in base "= 10". =A0That's why gai is a safer choice.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa



On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at= 3:17 PM, <pyrapopo@princeton.edu> wrote:
Back on topic: I think the = essential idea would be best represented by {li pano ju'u pare}, {li pa= nono ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}.

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:08:22 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
=
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...= @bezitopo.org> wrote:
<snip>
On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 17:19:21 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I could be wrong and it's {sovjipci}, not {jipcyso'a}, but I d= on't think so.

That would be an egg chicken. I'd just say "sovda", as = long as it's clear from
the context that they are chicken eggs and that they are not laid by rooste= rs.
Or are you asking which came first?

<= div>No, sometimes I get which part goes first in a lujvo backwards. In this= case, I was pretty sure that a "chicken egg" is {jipcyso'a},= but just in case....

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cm= ima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the D= ot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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