Received: from mail-vb0-f56.google.com ([209.85.212.56]:35653) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VWvQ0-00057h-H6 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:56 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f56.google.com with SMTP id h10sf484167vbh.11 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=x9Wchc9/at/dHQ+m2xjT17RkqX5jqfSPNzZahWpTgxg=; b=t1H2Bj1a9UeHS0n9KUuyY8UUTrGki6omF2YesXK675M7+bmOkuRurtBffQH1RoQm8Q 1bGAFDd++DsEntciVw3C5/1XzcoaOJGbi1iZSIujs3Y9nwT/tsnQE/fyz0JyG2n9VOwu dH7UcTOLXoRnwnAEOPlhH9+oyBPxlpsl5JwzuGs6Vujk0pL5dl5PbqLh6SyE/YoPkHeZ 5sz3LPpohQNuk/9n9oq6xjO9vZr2gjdYggJ+RALB6x2b1Lh95y05XHQJ5sNe38KLCDfE hq7jM/I8XKXm3hNDMz1g64B3XTuM4slEOKdLyH3GGyuLrA7guGGfTQ/30PDU/qNythQF Ejjw== X-Received: by 10.182.118.170 with SMTP id kn10mr114294obb.20.1382046458233; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.220.226 with SMTP id pz2ls358943obc.38.gmail; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.213.5 with SMTP id no5mr3663558obc.15.1382046457586; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x236.google.com (mail-qa0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bc1si2598048qcb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::236; Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j15so84968qaq.20 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.130.3 with SMTP id q3mr5944qas.117.1382046457470; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.18.33 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8D08DD6D4B84B56-1B60-4652F@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> <2503606.Kt8G23bMfr@caracal> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:47:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban for one dozen dozen, a gross or 144 From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1ea8c29266f04e8f6c40f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c1ea8c29266f04e8f6c40f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 pano klesi be lo prenu noi se terdi zo'u jimpe fi lo nu'a ju'u be li re gi'e na jimpe fi lo nu'a ju'u be li re gi'e lo na djuno lo du'u lo no'a xajmi cu nu'a ju'u be li ci --gejyspa On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Using "pare" as the argument to "ju'u" is asking for trouble, since > interpreting its meaning depends upon the base you are in! Every numbering > system thinks it's in base "10". That's why gai is a safer choice. > --gejyspa > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM, wrote: > >> Back on topic: I think the essential idea would be best represented by >> {li pano ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}. >> >> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:08:22 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 17:19:21 Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>> > I could be wrong and it's {sovjipci}, not {jipcyso'a}, but I don't >>>> think so. >>>> >>>> That would be an egg chicken. I'd just say "sovda", as long as it's >>>> clear from >>>> the context that they are chicken eggs and that they are not laid by >>>> roosters. >>>> Or are you asking which came first? >>>> >>> >>> No, sometimes I get which part goes first in a lujvo backwards. In this >>> case, I was pretty sure that a "chicken egg" is {jipcyso'a}, but just in >>> case.... >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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pano klesi be lo prenu noi se terdi zo'u jimpe =A0fi l= o nu'a ju'u be li re gi'e na=A0=A0jimpe fi =A0lo nu'a ju= 9;u be li re=A0 gi'e lo na djuno lo du'u lo no'a xajmi cu nu= 9;a ju'u be li ci=A0
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa


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On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Michael Tur= niansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0 Using "pare" as the argumen= t to "ju'u" is asking for trouble, since interpreting its mea= ning depends upon the base you are in! Every numbering system thinks it'= ;s in base "10". =A0That's why gai is a safer choice.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa



On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM, <pyrapopo@princeton.edu= > wrote:
Back on topic: I think the essential idea= would be best represented by {li pano ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u = pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}.

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:08:22 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
=
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...= @bezitopo.org> wrote:
<snip>
On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 17:19:21 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I could be wrong and it's {sovjipci}, not {jipcyso'a}, but I d= on't think so.

That would be an egg chicken. I'd just say "sovda", as = long as it's clear from
the context that they are chicken eggs and that they are not laid by rooste= rs.
Or are you asking which came first?

<= div>No, sometimes I get which part goes first in a lujvo backwards. In this= case, I was pretty sure that a "chicken egg" is {jipcyso'a},= but just in case....

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cm= ima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the D= ot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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