Received: from mail-qc0-f184.google.com ([209.85.216.184]:46306) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VWvkB-0005GP-DV for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:08:44 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f184.google.com with SMTP id i17sf483533qcy.11 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:08:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=awRRgGXagzHr38bT2cR7dUJCS0bGpBa702ke8cw0x10=; b=eNuo5FGmWY84C3i3D+SuZyDFHQnPBi5+u6UFvUjVCVKmnQUDHgmxmAaYcBiJGaccpg SBABcVDy3uiiVnPb1scMzp0Xkst2GPCSXhEzICK6CanWqH+MOzF9Vge+Wnl8zlaxYcbb KqB46Bw25d9M1G+wCgkGgsIAtgqkS4oHZZ6h888OgP97sI9WTvSHkIY3jz3dyRb1zTJ7 Nhc3bwXwgrog0lZuErBpsrS1PzNTER2hqn38/nG0WTMUXzdKVTH/6MdvxYdQn4fHl0lQ 8RgrJY5AZmeCuhat0rXaCLCNZ7REKXEckoCnKhpn8fzuN46nmz086Gzc/6NiF/9rEdpp lkyg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=awRRgGXagzHr38bT2cR7dUJCS0bGpBa702ke8cw0x10=; b=i4ymalaAYNT7R/MKtGoxFae+LtLikFGQFsLgYCtjyY5YHfrnkayAIErGFLLogfj0/C KtP/Ix5EbRPM3aEv9u07F32dqrQq3vFmcVViEMYf5J13nQ9A5PTTl5LBGXu0jC67f4q0 skiFSFfmo/Vcbh9Y4UcrEEz3fWrCMB2AKjsoyqQtNTC2SJm0nsSjLrTaq2xWWz+sVbsn sZic24fROFKTIXMByeDJODwb7RMP16G8l8dJPgX42vlPKtFU+KK8vRPXkpeciwSLSp4E mK6hiP2cl6Io4vvWtrdHoHh0TERKL6qZj6tOllNHy7PMSV64Aart3M1UEg2ZTWOUSRON 0XMQ== X-Received: by 10.50.109.170 with SMTP id ht10mr20927igb.14.1382047708980; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:08:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.101.51 with SMTP id fd19ls73697igb.10.canary; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.67.17 with SMTP id j17mr20639igt.8.1382047707810; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Rapoport To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <8D08DD6D4B84B56-1B60-4652F@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> <2503606.Kt8G23bMfr@caracal> Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban for one dozen dozen, a gross or 144 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: coronacoreanici@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1201_18801383.1382047706461" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1201_18801383.1382047706461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .ie Didn't see your reply there; that makes more sense. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:33:16 PM UTC-4, gejyspa wrote: > > Using "pare" as the argument to "ju'u" is asking for trouble, since > interpreting its meaning depends upon the base you are in! Every numbering > system thinks it's in base "10". That's why gai is a safer choice. > --gejyspa > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM, >wrote: > >> Back on topic: I think the essential idea would be best represented by >> {li pano ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}. >> >> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:08:22 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 17:19:21 Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>> > I could be wrong and it's {sovjipci}, not {jipcyso'a}, but I don't >>>> think so. >>>> >>>> That would be an egg chicken. I'd just say "sovda", as long as it's >>>> clear from >>>> the context that they are chicken eggs and that they are not laid by >>>> roosters. >>>> Or are you asking which came first? >>>> >>> >>> No, sometimes I get which part goes first in a lujvo backwards. In this >>> case, I was pretty sure that a "chicken egg" is {jipcyso'a}, but just in >>> case.... >>> >>> -- >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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.ie Didn't see your reply there; that makes more sense.
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:33:16 PM UTC-4, gejyspa wrote:
  Using "pare" a= s the argument to "ju'u" is asking for trouble, since interpreting its mean= ing depends upon the base you are in! Every numbering system thinks it's in= base "10".  That's why gai is a safer choice.
             --gejyspa



On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:= 17 PM, <pyra...@princeton.edu> wr= ote:
Back on topic: I think the = essential idea would be best represented by {li pano ju'u pare}, {li panono= ju'u pare}, {li panono ju'u pare}.

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:08:22 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
=
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...= @bezitopo.org> wrote:
<snip>
On Wednesday, October 02, 2013 17:19:21 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> I could be wrong and it's {sovjipci}, not {jipcyso'a}, but I don't thi= nk so.

That would be an egg chicken. I'd just say "sovda", as long as it's c= lear from
the context that they are chicken eggs and that they are not laid by rooste= rs.
Or are you asking which came first?

<= div>No, sometimes I get which part goes first in a lujvo backwards. In this= case, I was pretty sure that a "chicken egg" is {jipcyso'a}, but just in c= ase....

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno= be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I= am your father. :D )

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