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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:43:30 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban for one dozen dozen, a gross or 144
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On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, October 17, 2013 17:33:16 Michael Turniansky wrote:
> >   Using "pare" as the argument to "ju'u" is asking for trouble, since
> > interpreting its meaning depends upon the base you are in! Every
> numbering
> > system thinks it's in base "10".  That's why gai is a safer choice.
>
> "ju'u" being in VUhU makes no sense. It ought to be in PA3.
>
> What is "pa'i" for? It seems redundant to "fe'i".
>
>
    As redundant as parbi/frinu/dilcu  But for some reason, natlangs like
to treat ratios (a:b) distinct from fractions (a/b) and division (a=F7b).
 Perhaps because you can use ratios as n-ary operations, unlike fractions
or division.  Perhaps it's because we often leave ratios unevaluated *shrug=
*

      --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Thursday, October 17, 2013 17:33:16 M=
ichael Turniansky wrote:<br>

&gt; =A0 Using &quot;pare&quot; as the argument to &quot;ju&#39;u&quot; is =
asking for trouble, since<br>
&gt; interpreting its meaning depends upon the base you are in! Every numbe=
ring<br>
&gt; system thinks it&#39;s in base &quot;10&quot;. =A0That&#39;s why gai i=
s a safer choice.<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;ju&#39;u&quot; being in VUhU makes no sense. It ought to be in =
PA3.<br>
<br>
What is &quot;pa&#39;i&quot; for? It seems redundant to &quot;fe&#39;i&quot=
;.<br>
<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 As redundant as parbi/frinu/dilcu =A0But for some =
reason, natlangs like to treat ratios (a:b) distinct from fractions (a/b) a=
nd division (a=F7b). =A0Perhaps because you can use ratios as n-ary operati=
ons, unlike fractions or division. =A0Perhaps it&#39;s because we often lea=
ve ratios unevaluated *shrug*</div>
<div>=A0</div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><br></div></div></div></=
div>

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