Received: from mail-vc0-f183.google.com ([209.85.220.183]:55782) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VZ2Fk-0000TJ-DZ for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:29:57 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f183.google.com with SMTP id hz11sf245327vcb.0 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:29:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BauMmbxOtwmlggSQSERV7n222AwxK0MDNQl8393QFbc=; b=MNxmOBa3DMeB39OEZunh5UmEL7kklsD2l3y565oK+RQPJQiJa+X8Wg/2ZeEVThAaKI oTB6AQq+um+YYVGyWgzlB/u9NG6yqXLUT3qZhXapMtSHGRuKil9qN88J3b8/wiv2hqUS Ae0OEBRp6ukN/gagCfgjrLh+XB1lGYd55m0mUKhV+eWRBZIvBWzhcdtS/L/WDwbHS9eo yWdxAy2tdsGlmAasbMDiQ2QhabUax0Tbl20SuhmXE1NhGUv/A3Lb0d/NKfpjjeJzsVCz 1GsNGGeHJvVjwFxOy6LAZHKDj4tzEnGtx26mvmooe/JxWzCQpSr7+/1qtC/HyvJyKDGl mlxg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BauMmbxOtwmlggSQSERV7n222AwxK0MDNQl8393QFbc=; b=Eq536wP5BTKeRF4wlox44QbSHhqj86RLlymAtyP0XkvRN7NzYUcbMNz5bO3NYx6hMd KDHi7I2OBp/6znHzTTGd97rFruHJjZUC+nKbPX5IKdzTzbFU4ASemj4QQyJML0y7akMy MoxPUgLeriJUglmWXwA7A3ZpQ1K0c0ipYVk5Y0iVEFwmF5sPHsLyPSO7KN6QsdrHnEDe B3GDL+5NKm9Cu13wrDn6kyZhkS1gD24KY/PqKmW4r2XKlBes6JlpgZ5TXHobMXntZxUP Lf6kHQkN3UF4/CSwjx1t2hjJwt7RJKVL9Xh2QFUQYw6Bqt1DOOqBHCWSAoQukYuXGcJy D5qA== X-Received: by 10.50.72.114 with SMTP id c18mr107544igv.5.1382549385914; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:29:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.20.6 with SMTP id j6ls3067111ige.21.canary; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:29:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.82.33 with SMTP id f1mr91495igy.0.1382549385616; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: guskant To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6bbae0d7-8b9a-4425-8399-418c87fc5941@googlegroups.com> References: <1de0841c-1bc8-4815-9fc9-56bc6eaef179@googlegroups.com> <6bbae0d7-8b9a-4425-8399-418c87fc5941@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: mi pu fanva le pemci MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gusni.kantu@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2602_1718975.1382549384583" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2602_1718975.1382549384583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le jeudi 24 octobre 2013 02:22:58 UTC+9, guskant a =E9crit : > > > > Le mercredi 23 octobre 2013 14:57:53 UTC+9, Paul Rapoport a =E9crit : >> >> >> .i .u'ucui ko fraxu le nu la'e go'i >> > > -> .i ko mi fraxu > # {fraxu} x2 is a person. {la'e go'i} is not grammatical because {la'e}= =20 > should be followed by a sumti and {go'i} is a bridi. As a translation of= =20 > "Forgive me", {ko mi sidju} is necessary and sufficient. > ua mi srera i ko mi fraxu u'i Not {ko mi sidju} but {ko mi fraxu} is necessary and sufficient as a=20 translation of "Forgive me". =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_2602_1718975.1382549384583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Le jeudi 24 octobre 2013 02:22:58 UTC+9, guskant a= =E9crit :


Le mercredi 23 octobre 2013 14:57:53 UTC+9, Paul Rapoport a =E9cr= it :

.i .= u'ucui ko fraxu le nu la'e go'i

-= > .i ko mi fraxu
# {fraxu} x2 is a person. {la'e go'i} is not = grammatical because {la'e} should be followed by a sumti and {go'i} is a br= idi. As a translation of "Forgive me", {ko mi sidju} is necessary and suffi= cient.

ua mi srera i ko mi frax= u u'i
Not {ko mi sidju} but {ko mi fraxu} is necessary and suffic= ient as a translation of "Forgive me".
 

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