Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:38783) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VaomE-0001LG-Vh for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:56 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f61.google.com with SMTP id y10sf847474wgg.16 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ApN8/tOZE94sno5XxbqIbaQNvU+Eq5iYawIhgb5SjMg=; b=qb8VQ7f5YvuvSIT3tkwYTNkPk/h+ps23BGJUYCwoY7ghZGzZ34Ddj1UScQoXYwXWKE j5xZLkP/ytTzeO3wkH0K326zUEcAYxhT6zYgjqJM+N6Fflt+2SvpU9rUYzFI/SBXZr0U 4IfBq6W2iPattnqRnMq+cl8etTnyrDoKUEZEs+wdxpXsmpQsJaXhWcllJsGqTYBfxgLX rBHsQ6WgJ82R50WKTr/VeMie4NBmJKGxWiNYpYuhFhMS6q9VvphxDw9i421UIJDA1rZv hcjL+OGfOlfsCKA+uEmX0MbO3GKzaJzAgx/Jtn+ECYHtf8wVf+m9Q1pbWMAuRJlAPbjI 43yg== X-Received: by 10.152.115.241 with SMTP id jr17mr35713lab.34.1382974239932; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.5.66 with SMTP id q2ls156375laq.17.gmail; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.234.163 with SMTP id uf3mr6382785lbc.14.1382974239435; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nb7si638682wic.3.2013.10.28.08.30.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a; Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n12so3560877wgh.3 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.9.69 with SMTP id x5mr9585130wia.41.1382974239280; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.232.133 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:30:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2352daac-5a38-4fef-b7bb-b2dbc4255f86@googlegroups.com> References: <82e3500a-a054-43bd-bf9e-9c0e3162d39b@googlegroups.com> <00654d91-a57f-420d-9fd1-6c950fe7b329@googlegroups.com> <2352daac-5a38-4fef-b7bb-b2dbc4255f86@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:30:39 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: LMW reloaded (lojbo uitki) From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24c1644156f04e9cec84e X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c24c1644156f04e9cec84e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM, iesk wrote: > Le mardi 25 juin 2013 14:24:00 UTC+2, la arxokuna a =E9crit : >> >> I have to inform that I reuploaded the wiki. Now most of the hyperlinks >> for pages starting with "Old Pages: " are fixed. > > > Can=92t we get rid of the "Old Pages:" prefix anyway? It doesn=92t seem t= o > make a lot of sense =85 in a wiki. Whether a page was on the TikiWiki bef= ore > or not doesn=92t tell about its relevance. > There were any complaints that Tiki was old, old-fashioned, not coherent, containing a lot of pages with discussions that newbies couldn't understand. This for sure has diverted and continues to divert a lot of people from Lojban. I can see that now from Google Analytics plugin although it has been working just for several days (we have ~30 unique visits a day to lojban.org). This is why LMW was born. *All pages from the old wiki are not official or worth reading by default by newbies.* But if you feel that any page is still relevant, please fix links there, fix formatting, check whether hyperlinks there lead only to good pages as well and at last rename that page removing "Old Pages: " prefix but retaining redirect. -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:40 PM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wr= ote:
Le mardi 25 juin 2013 14:24:00 UTC+2, la arxokuna a =E9cri= t=A0:
I have to inform that I reuplo= aded the wiki. Now most of the hyperlinks for pages starting with "Old= Pages: " are fixed.

Can=92t we get rid of the "Old Pages:" prefix anyway? It= doesn=92t seem to make a lot of sense =85 in a wiki. Whether a page was on= the TikiWiki before or not doesn=92t tell about its relevance.
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There were any complaints t= hat Tiki was old, old-fashioned, not coherent, containing a lot of pages wi= th discussions that newbies couldn't understand. This for sure has dive= rted and continues to divert a lot of people from Lojban. I can see that no= w from Google Analytics plugin although it has been working just for severa= l days (we have ~30 unique visits a day to lo= jban.org).

This is why LMW was born. All pages from the old wik= i are not official or worth reading by default by newbies. But if you f= eel that any page is still relevant, please fix links there, fix formatting= , check whether hyperlinks there lead only to good pages as well and at las= t rename that page removing "Old Pages: " prefix but retaining re= direct.


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