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Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:01:08 +0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Officialness, spin-off projects, dialects, communication
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I think it's  a good idea to clearly show what is official lojban, what are
spin-offs and proposals. In fact the majority of pages in tiki was about
changing or improving Lojban so it's actually a must. Of course one day I
might make LMW perfect in this regard but it may take 10 years. Are you
willing to wait? May be better to contribute yourself?

I imagine creating a bunch of pages with prefix: "Standard Lojban: " or
without any prefix. There should be other prefixes like "Proposal: " or
something. The structure of pages LMW needs to be carefully thought out
before applying it on live wiki.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:

> Le lundi 28 octobre 2013 16:26:11 UTC+1, la arxokuna a =E9crit :
>
>> Mentioning spin-off projects in "joiku" article was too much, I agree. I
>> can make mistakes especially since everybody is watching/critisizing .en=
ai
>> contributing.
>>
>> However, in my opinion official Lojban includes not only xorlo, but also
>> dotside, kanpe and *camxes*. According to camxes
>> http://camxes.lojban.org/**camxes/?text=3Dlo+ladru+joi+lo+**ckafi+cu+kuk=
te<http://camxes.lojban.org/camxes/?text=3Dlo+ladru+joi+lo+ckafi+cu+kukte>
>> parses so the rest of that article is obsolete in post-camxes Lojban.
>>
>>
> I hope you don=92t consider my remarks complaints. I would have posted my
> message on the MediaWiki itself, by the way, but it seemed like nobody wa=
s
> willing to share their thoughts there (except for you and me, of course),
> so I put it here instead.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think it&#39;s =A0a good idea to clearly show what is of=
ficial lojban, what are spin-offs and proposals. In fact the majority of pa=
ges in tiki was about changing or improving Lojban so it&#39;s actually a m=
ust. Of course one day I might make LMW perfect in this regard but it may t=
ake 10 years. Are you willing to wait? May be better to contribute yourself=
?<div>
<br></div><div>I imagine creating a bunch of pages with prefix: &quot;Stand=
ard Lojban: &quot; or without any prefix. There should be other prefixes li=
ke &quot;Proposal: &quot; or something. The structure of pages LMW needs to=
 be carefully thought out before applying it on live wiki.</div>
<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM, iesk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">pa.fae@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Le lundi 28 octobre 2013 16=
:26:11 UTC+1, la arxokuna a =E9crit=A0:<div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Mentioning spin-off projects in &quot;joiku&quot; article =
was too much, I agree. I can make mistakes especially since everybody is wa=
tching/critisizing .enai contributing.<div><br></div><div>However, in my op=
inion official Lojban includes not only xorlo, but also dotside, kanpe and =
<b>camxes</b>. According to camxes=A0</div>

<div><a href=3D"http://camxes.lojban.org/camxes/?text=3Dlo+ladru+joi+lo+cka=
fi+cu+kukte" target=3D"_blank">http://camxes.lojban.org/<u></u>camxes/?text=
=3Dlo+ladru+joi+lo+<u></u>ckafi+cu+kukte</a><br></div><div>parses so the re=
st of that article is obsolete in post-camxes Lojban.<br>

</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>I hope you don=92t c=
onsider my remarks complaints. I would have posted my message on the MediaW=
iki itself, by the way, but it seemed like nobody was willing to share thei=
r thoughts there (except for you and me, of course), so I put it here inste=
ad.<br>
</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">

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