Received: from mail-oa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.219.61]:45313) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VcmFz-0007JZ-96 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:42 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id i1sf1251429oag.6 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=KoUccTzp+3D2wz9nStTSw08CRu8bnulC+jLRRdxC8Vg=; b=xQcA+A5JK2dMFoA3g/uZufTPdlcmlzZOGVQrnqE0jkQPQRzc0JcYAZaRWp2Jb08WQI mCKEhlPYCIx6gz9ZRNOwqf6qmrvL5KKkBkr8LQQMnDg6UQKz6Hd6Deo6R9gcBtOrSJQ5 00mhBpEKiq2sp2OP033KjpHPkQz2Jp5OBgdCybrt4YrIAqOUorec5UZ9oRmEkTGYtP+o KK8qUgGxahP1Xn0ga1/L8J8rXBmIGMl53cLKsV3vt8eglJjHXHVboTY+ZjTzXj98SCxt miXvRJZ0+I/ugOtN/7T24FjTDNokdqOyGSMe9SawP644ujfG8fQZfHDrbrCTUjiQNBEb WAyA== X-Received: by 10.182.246.98 with SMTP id xv2mr231obc.27.1383441208184; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.52.136 with SMTP id t8ls1108589obo.60.gmail; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.246.225 with SMTP id xz1mr3261523obc.14.1383441206732; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qe0-x236.google.com (mail-qe0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c02::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gs8si3182035qcb.0.2013.11.02.18.13.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c02::236; Received: by mail-qe0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 1so3350069qec.41 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.104.5 with SMTP id ga5mr2561978qeb.58.1383441206628; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.224.5 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <723c28ce-8f24-457f-9521-218fe64a9f45@googlegroups.com> <20131103020054.232ea78a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 19:13:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] each language grammer is universaly by some method From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6dc152b056df04ea3b81d1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b6dc152b056df04ea3b81d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The best I can make of this is that it seems he is proposing that we make the ending vowel of gismu reflect the tense it is being used in, so that for example dunda would become dundu in the present tense and dundy in the past tense. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > His messages rarely make much sense. We've tried to get him to post in his > own language, seeing as other people here know it and could translate much > better than his own attempts, but he hasn't listened. > > I advise you to do as I and just ignore him when you can make neither > heads nor tails of him. > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Wuzzy wrote: > >> On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:32:15 -0700 (PDT) >> la ki'es-di'es said this: >> >> > For example, according to Arabic grammer the past word end of y and >> > the present end of u and do "order" verb end of consonant, so that >> > true for lojban verb gismu valsi we can manipulate with the last >> > letter of verb, for the verifing of the validity of that the idea. >> >> o_O Your message does not make any sense to me. 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The best I can make of this is that it seems he is pr= oposing that we make the ending vowel of gismu reflect the tense it is bein= g used in, so that for example dunda would become dundu in the present tens= e and dundy in the past tense.


O= n Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
His messages rarely ma= ke much sense. We've tried to get him to post in his own language, seei= ng as other people here know it and could translate much better than his ow= n attempts, but he hasn't listened.

I advise you to do as I and just ignore him when you can make nei= ther heads nor tails of him.


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:00= PM, Wuzzy <almikes@aol.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:32:15 -0700 (PDT)
la ki'es-di'es <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk> said this:

> For example, according to Arabic grammer the past word end of y and > the present end of u and do "order" verb end of consonant, s= o that
> true for lojban verb gismu valsi we can manipulate with the last
> letter of verb, for the verifing of the validity of that the idea.

o_O Your message does not make any sense to me. What the fuck are you=
talking about?


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Wuzzy
XMPP: Wuzzy2@jabb= er.ccc.de
E-Mail: wuzzy2@mail.ru<= /a>



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mu'o mi'e .aionys.<= br>
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do = zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )



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mu'o mi'e .aion= ys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu= do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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