Received: from mail-ee0-f60.google.com ([74.125.83.60]:39714) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VeKr8-0005hy-Hi for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:38 -0800 Received: by mail-ee0-f60.google.com with SMTP id c50sf28028eek.5 for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nw1izCSQDc+mTPFeGGitxvBPsj6mGKlqcbGWIxfdJEA=; b=ouZE655JtxlXXXsu4dF+B4ZObyZ6kmxfJoOxhUMubsJgUzH2Au3Ek3NNkV/T3bnmHE qgkob4s2TJSa0SBOryX8XeYqxfIlzj2226MdCss3n/+5gL8UeRQFq79KEqameIXwpyOj yd3f1a3mU9mewYNTCP1F8RmZ3gsSqdKY/VRl9Gbbv4XelXWbo42/wx16iMeREExQo/1H DZLVEUy8qCELZ0Bo22pBwkz61z2DV8SSCjauZtYuUOjVd/0bmx5lISfRq+eZNlkLH+nz FfV258bvlwnptOp0EpA5JEtr9ZSLWCoThxhqKUdbHJV1cQfbk2yBFbtNqf0B+tTV5iiD Q4sg== X-Received: by 10.152.37.5 with SMTP id u5mr327laj.41.1383812533567; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.5.2 with SMTP id o2ls203249lao.29.gmail; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.53.103 with SMTP id a7mr3406675lbp.12.1383812533192; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x242.google.com (mail-we0-x242.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::242]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6si600615wiw.2.2013.11.07.00.22.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::242 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::242; Received: by mail-we0-f194.google.com with SMTP id u57so51718wes.1 for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.219.1 with SMTP id pk1mr6142976wjc.36.1383812533080; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 00:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.41.165 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 00:22:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <51A379EF.3020803@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:22:12 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::242 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1a2f078592304ea91f61a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c1a2f078592304ea91f61a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:12 PM, iesk wrote: > Supposing the Merge: > .i ko'a goi la .betsemes. cu selme'e zo .betsemes. > .i ko'e goi la tsani cu selme'e zo .tsani. > .i ko'a .betsemes. > this means "They are betsemes" where .betsemes. = x1 is/are betsemes Can we use cmevla as brivla and can they have more than one sumti place is an open question. .i ko'e tsani .y. na ku > > Still not simple-beautiful. > > Another solution (in a fictional lojbophone world, at least) would be not > to use me'evla at all. Never. All names are gismu-/lujvo-/zi'evla-shaped > words (chosen for their sound, or for their literal meaning [if they have > one], or what have you). > > (zo'o By the way, if you want a fancy name, try {la duku}. Don't try {la > si}. Er, I mean: Don't try {}.) > > mu'o mi'e la iesko > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c1a2f078592304ea91f61a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:12 PM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wr= ote:
Supposing the Merge:
.i ko'a goi la .betsemes. cu selme'e zo .betsemes.
.i ko'e goi la tsani cu selme'e zo .tsani.
.i ko'a .betsemes.

this means "= ;They are betsemes" where =A0.betsemes. =3D x1 is/are betsemes

Can we use cmevla as brivla and can they have more than o= ne sumti place is an open question.


.i ko'e tsani .y. na ku

Still not simple-beautiful.

Another solution (in a fictional lojbophone world, at least) would be not t= o use me'evla at all. Never. All names are gismu-/lujvo-/zi'evla-sh= aped words (chosen for their sound, or for their literal meaning [if they h= ave one], or what have you).

(zo'o By the way, if you want a fancy name, try {la duku}. Don't tr= y {la si}. Er, I mean: Don't try {}.)

mu'o mi'e la iesko

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