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[212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z4si2842035eel.0.2013.11.10.04.30.21 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.108] ([84.175.69.186]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LomuB-1W7NFW0I5T-00gsMs for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:30:21 +0100 Message-ID: <527F7C5D.8060409@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 13:30:21 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Survey about learning the basic vocabulary References: <20131110061823.79f7ae76@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <20131110061823.79f7ae76@aol.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Ks8cftZJSQRw+8BUGLcwRWUQI2kyXWH2uaQ93CCKpRv9gZRexPg KJzavAxV8z5UbNh/d45jVbUKej2+FLS9erIWDOPs2M3gG/XfJS78s544OPTYMAWQKSBHnIB 3+pg/gswFXw8nnKbYrErKcK6t4kcZNxLl2tHmioTjWik8UPEqdZbJdjdWCJ33r0lKLltLvm Bt0xS2RQ9dKGW5tbNWcyg== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / > 1) Did you learn any Lojban vocabulary so far? Yes. > If you said =93no=94, the survey is done for you. If you said =93yes=94, = go on: > 2) How many of the gismu do you have memorized right now? Well over a thousand. About 1100-1200. > 3) How many rafsi? I never counted them, but I know a large number. I never used a specific=20 tool to learn them, but learned them by making lots of lujvo. > 4) And how many cmavo? 99% (+ 99% of the experimental cmavo) > 5) When did you start learning vocabulary? The moment I heard the first word of Lojban. (no flashcards, just exposure) > 6) How often (roughly) do (or did) you learn? I don't sit down and learn words in isolation. I use the language and=20 that's how the words become familiar on a personal level. > 7) On a regular basis? I don't use tools, but I do use the language every single day of my=20 life, and I consider that the best practice one can get. > 8) Which learning tool or learning method do you use? There was a short period in which I used memrise, but on the whole it's=20 not my preferred way of learning vocabulary. I learned a lot by=20 conversing on IRC and by translating massive amounts of text into=20 Lojban. I would also recommend *reading* texts to everyone. It's so much=20 more effective than flashcards in my opinion. But to each their own. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.