Received: from mail-vb0-f63.google.com ([209.85.212.63]:35287) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VhH8a-0008EZ-EQ for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:44 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f63.google.com with SMTP id w5sf605591vbf.8 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3uWSxWYKHuJDdksL/wpu5hCbtQUJQMVolVHNDMi0vPA=; b=tZFeVGUmtSoHD/1fOAb0waxOiVJWCX3NYiCpHofAt1mDAGcrEx1jShJQgYT5SI5dvc 2o+2YpGTBKxy3Cp6fizYlRaaNIT6/NE+hAHV91mWxu499T5HwtS5btWrD4IHI/dNl/Nu Md4cAFVxBnH7AKE+9sq9KGv+tdFGebLZlRNC4patpOP2Xxm3fZmWltNkHwVjg3aYVflN 0l2eqYeNAF0wSk3dkAqflW/d+QmbM/PmBqKIzZRCxFQp3hSGrLva9l2WP2WiN02XYWse NCJQsQ4guNJcU7XRgkJ+Kz5d8snbFGedzpQFoVc9/j+iF/ITa5EgKPpcXNfuw/3vSjVU lXjA== X-Received: by 10.182.28.100 with SMTP id a4mr13589obh.28.1384513225335; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.28.73 with SMTP id z9ls834131obg.83.gmail; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:25 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.111.134 with SMTP id ii6mr2567125obb.38.1384513225014; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qc0-x22a.google.com (mail-qc0-x22a.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si542375qcj.3.2013.11.15.03.00.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a; Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id n9so2042397qcw.1 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.114.81 with SMTP id d17mr9828511qaq.18.1384513224878; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.224.5 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:00:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131115063152.GA14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20131115063152.GA14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 04:00:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Please read: server donations From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bea3a34f4b42e04eb351a6f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bea3a34f4b42e04eb351a6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes. You should be paid for your efforts. And the problem isn't just in your head.Further, I'm not concerned about the speed so much as the availability- everyone hates it when the server is down. Fix that and it was worth the money to me, regardless of how much or little you improved the speed. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you > responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the > basis of me asserting that there was a problem. > > I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if you > think there's a problem. I'm worried that I'm spending money to > solve a problem only I can see (because it's my professional field). > > There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster, if > I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's sake, that the > best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is now. > > Given that, what do you think? Is lojban.org slow enough that I > should take people's money to make it better? > > Thanks for your time. > > -Robin > > -- > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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Yes. You should be paid for your efforts. And the problem = isn't just in your head.Further, I'm not concerned about the speed = so much as the availability- everyone hates it when the server is down. Fix= that and it was worth the money to me, regardless of how much or little yo= u improved the speed.


On Thu,= Nov 14, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalk= ingdom.org> wrote:

I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you
responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the
basis of me asserting that there was a problem.

I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if you
think there's a problem. =A0I'm worried that I'm spending money= to
solve a problem only I can see (because it's my professional field).
There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster, if
I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's sake, that the=
best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is now.

Given that, what do you think? =A0Is lojban.org slow enough that I
should take people's money to make it better?

Thanks for your time.

-Robin

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http://intelligence.= org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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