Received: from mail-ob0-f185.google.com ([209.85.214.185]:36394) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VhJ1f-0000ib-SA for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:42 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f185.google.com with SMTP id gq1sf631655obb.2 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UWnYd7JGOLg2JDweOi8BSgI0sEIz3TP+H438VHJxw6E=; b=hayu71Jhm8tsgujam1Uc/cpvYENgsCRruaG4ww9zw2Cu/bIKEI4KN0eTREh9874elO kP7bTPcF9UwaBdEjZ7z8r59PkRXE8otm00p8VX0SwwfYkEcuIS+iibZRTdNXg7sjFAc2 wZXx9RNH9nZbuKyPu8FHIUmOaJwFbeoMkSvLVnpH3b5c8dpi06XrNAfBtD6hnJAUa4SE 6+7RFpN3zWwu5UAiBp9R+cbAwHEl2t5J4aFzWt7E711Z/gckzmZa+rkH3VR84RZUSCyi BuiuLUEeZlglC/Ue9k/8TZoPS+64qB3roMpybWFbbTmB3psI/e7VZEewMsPD0lbxEw2t NL0g== X-Received: by 10.50.23.8 with SMTP id i8mr143433igf.8.1384520485854; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.85.48 with SMTP id e16ls374500igz.8.canary; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.126.69 with SMTP id mw5mr3176698igb.7.1384520484968; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k45si465742yhn.4.2013.11.15.05.01.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f; Received: by mail-ie0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id u16so4462428iet.6 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.154.102 with SMTP id vn6mr4461320igb.15.1384520484729; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.126.7 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:01:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20131115063152.GA14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:01:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Please read: server donations From: Remo Dentato To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd7581ead3c5f04eb36cb82 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bd7581ead3c5f04eb36cb82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Robin. I recently did not have time to do anything on lojban but when I visited the site from time to time I noticed it was down or extremely slow. I think the community will benefit from a faster serever. I don't know if moving to a different solution or provider would provide an improvement. Thanks for the work. (and let us have news about the twins from time to time, I really enjoyed your messages about their progresses). .remod. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Yes. You should be paid for your efforts. And the problem isn't just in > your head.Further, I'm not concerned about the speed so much as the > availability- everyone hates it when the server is down. Fix that and it > was worth the money to me, regardless of how much or little you improved > the speed. > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> >> I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you >> responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the >> basis of me asserting that there was a problem. >> >> I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if you >> think there's a problem. I'm worried that I'm spending money to >> solve a problem only I can see (because it's my professional field). >> >> There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster, if >> I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's sake, that the >> best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is now. >> >> Given that, what do you think? Is lojban.org slow enough that I >> should take people's money to make it better? >> >> Thanks for your time. >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. >> .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e >> lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e >> lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni >> li'u >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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Hi Robin. I recently did not have time to d= o anything on lojban but when I visited the site from time to time I notice= d it was down or extremely slow.
I think the community will benef= it from a faster serever. I don't know if moving to a different solutio= n or provider would provide an improvement.

Thanks for the work. (and let us have news about the twins from t= ime to time, I really enjoyed your messages about their progresses).
.remod.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Yes. You should be paid for your efforts. And the problem = isn't just in your head.Further, I'm not concerned about the speed = so much as the availability- everyone hates it when the server is down. Fix= that and it was worth the money to me, regardless of how much or little yo= u improved the speed.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you
responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the
basis of me asserting that there was a problem.

I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if you
think there's a problem. =A0I'm worried that I'm spending money= to
solve a problem only I can see (because it's my professional field).
There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster, if
I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's sake, that the=
best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is now.

Given that, what do you think? =A0Is lojban.org slow enough that I
should take people's money to make it better?

Thanks for your time.

-Robin

--
http://intelligence.= org/ : =A0Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u = .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e = lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mam= ta be do cu sofybakni li'u

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