Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:65378) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VhRgM-0004fu-1c for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:16:20 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id k4sf254569qaq.26 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=S69kP1sXG+MQnpnUkl5hqCzm9T36MKzyOy1YrYF0WuE=; b=zS28Fp8EtWdxBhKXzwnea2FygumPu3Wypq1pdSSRalZjKjzR0bx83oBZbEbhodKM6D 7FZjaKmq+hQGhha9g9JVuHwN+06ZHqe5igjJU8JLjmORZonQXXr55T0jzs04VtRxK2SP 76MSsYP+4CKxOEBmd4j6cdCZWXYwfZ3TEHHiHYWMdQ3c9f5Eyxy15bbaiJ4s0ECQAkL2 cqZhdaCqSmBsXMaPcdqNTSt52qn7kUQe+WAH0HdRCad8NW/ZoSfog9lclnpVf/LA4Tj0 TasPHFZoUfVELTFC/urngxL7bGfO1y+cXsE+oTvvt4DHnf2K9uumSQswmorMnwV9jXCL 7SZg== X-Received: by 10.49.15.198 with SMTP id z6mr273766qec.5.1384553758436; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.121.69 with SMTP id li5ls1677476qeb.39.gmail; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:58 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.135.79 with SMTP id t55mr4896645yhi.39.1384553758083; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pg2si605987igb.3.2013.11.15.14.15.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VhRgC-0004fm-OH for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:56 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:15:56 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Please read: server donations Message-ID: <20131115221556.GB14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20131115063152.GA14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20131115063152.GA14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:31:52PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you > responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the > basis of me asserting that there was a problem. > > I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if you > think there's a problem. I'm worried that I'm spending money to > solve a problem only I can see (because it's my professional field). > > There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster, if > I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's sake, that the > best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is now. > > Given that, what do you think? Is lojban.org slow enough that I > should take people's money to make it better? I want to be really clear that I'm asking you to check *current* performance. We've made a number of changes recently. In fact, I *just* made a bunch of changes. So, please, go try things out (in particular the main wiki, jbovlaste, and vlasisku) and tell me if you still think it's worth spending money. Come back in a day or so and let me know. Thanks. -Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.