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From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438907d18ed9904eb970c4a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0438907d18ed9904eb970c4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 02:15:56PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:31:52PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you > > > responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the > > > basis of me asserting that there was a problem. > > > > > > I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if > > > you think there's a problem. I'm worried that I'm spending > > > money to solve a problem only I can see (because it's my > > > professional field). > > > > > > There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster, > > > if I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's sake, > > > that the best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is > > > now. > > > > > > Given that, what do you think? Is lojban.org slow enough that I > > > should take people's money to make it better? > > > > I want to be really clear that I'm asking you to check *current* > > performance. We've made a number of changes recently. > > > > In fact, I *just* made a bunch of changes. So, please, go try > > things out (in particular the main wiki, jbovlaste, and vlasisku) > > and tell me if you still think it's worth spending money. Come > > back in a day or so and let me know. > > OK, well, no-one is all like "OMG IT'S TOTALLY THE FASTEST THING > NOW!!", so I will say *THANK YOU VERY MUCH*!, take your money, and > make a new server. > What? I can only say that everything works now. I haven't noticed any shutdowns for the last several days. So it's all fine. Thank you for the upgrade, Robin! [the fastest website for me is google.com] > > -Robin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Robin Lee Powell &l= t;rlpowell= @digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 02:15:56PM -0800, Ro= bin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:31:52PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >
> > I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you
> > responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on the > > basis of me asserting that there was a problem.
> >
> > I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* if > > you think there's a problem. =A0I'm worried that I'm = spending
> > money to solve a problem only I can see (because it's my
> > professional field).
> >
> > There are probably things I can do to make the server go faster,<= br> > > if I worked hard at it, but let's say, for expediency's s= ake,
> > that the best I could do is to make it 25% faster than it is
> > now.
> >
> > Given that, what do you think? =A0Is lojban.org slow enough that I
> > should take people's money to make it better?
>
> I want to be really clear that I'm asking you to check *current* > performance. =A0We've made a number of changes recently.
>
> In fact, I *just* made a bunch of changes. =A0So, please, go try
> things out (in particular the main wiki, jbovlaste, and vlasisku)
> and tell me if you still think it's worth spending money. =A0Come<= br> > back in a day or so and let me know.

OK, well, no-one is all like "OMG IT'S TOTALLY THE FASTEST THING NOW!!", so I will say *THANK YOU VERY MUCH*!, take your money, and
make a new server.

What? I can only say= that everything works now. I haven't noticed any shutdowns for the las= t several days. So it's all fine. Thank you for the upgrade, Robin!

[the fastest website for me is google.com]
=A0

-Robin

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