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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gg4si1007931pbc.0.2013.11.20.00.01.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vj2j3-0000x9-H8 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:01:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:01:29 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Server donations, finality. Message-ID: <20131120080129.GD9309@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20131115063152.GA14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20131115221556.GB14593@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20131120074838.GC9309@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:51:22AM +0400, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 02:15:56PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:31:52PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I asked you all for money to make lojban.org faster, and you > > > > responded (more than I expected, thank you!), apparently on > > > > the basis of me asserting that there was a problem. > > > > > > > > I forgot something important, though, which was to ask *you* > > > > if you think there's a problem. I'm worried that I'm > > > > spending money to solve a problem only I can see (because > > > > it's my professional field). > > > > > > > > There are probably things I can do to make the server go > > > > faster, if I worked hard at it, but let's say, for > > > > expediency's sake, that the best I could do is to make it > > > > 25% faster than it is now. > > > > > > > > Given that, what do you think? Is lojban.org slow enough > > > > that I should take people's money to make it better? > > > > > > I want to be really clear that I'm asking you to check > > > *current* performance. We've made a number of changes > > > recently. > > > > > > In fact, I *just* made a bunch of changes. So, please, go try > > > things out (in particular the main wiki, jbovlaste, and > > > vlasisku) and tell me if you still think it's worth spending > > > money. Come back in a day or so and let me know. > > > > OK, well, no-one is all like "OMG IT'S TOTALLY THE FASTEST THING > > NOW!!", so I will say *THANK YOU VERY MUCH*!, take your money, > > and make a new server. > > > > What? I can only say that everything works now. I haven't noticed > any shutdowns for the last several days. So it's all fine. Thank > you for the upgrade, Robin! Erm. You need to read the rest of what I wrote; I haven't upgraded yet. I fixed some things, I was trying to find out if my fixes were sufficiently awesome that I don't need to upgrade, and no-one answered, so I assumed they weren't. -Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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