Received: from mail-ve0-f184.google.com ([209.85.128.184]:52738) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VkTEr-0000HV-Ag for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:20 -0800 Received: by mail-ve0-f184.google.com with SMTP id jz11sf773677veb.11 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=FJElD9YLgbMb3G41oAnPO7bwN4v3E71Y1aRoO7nIgrI=; b=Ec/XXxh96OqMc5olLAIOeSBthwEvwcq5FEkrOYNUqj8lyFvoeq1kkmTosgERHfFPPn zy4OXonnk8wsDFfJbdy8gr05+tslRxqSyDySOm3uzIogomENh+zQtmfx2cpQt2dOLVov PttWQYZTZbb2/jhEfy4DjqQr0gVhl1J9eIDFVZezycgDJDkhIGwX1mqp8fAKCXfyuiWA DID+PAIhvyA2at6Sxtk19pk/fB+z8v1atzOk/IImuUF53jKAm9DZzii/NVSTJwpsYv/G JPvvAMDyn6LYGgCuaI1DJimpco4RO2q5RcpaDI72eJAe8WSjGIfdu4Q+a2jlZt7HSm2s uqjQ== X-Received: by 10.49.95.41 with SMTP id dh9mr106qeb.32.1385274725420; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.0.106 with SMTP id 10ls1655646qed.55.gmail; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.224.5.5 with SMTP id 5mr10078397qat.4.1385274724958; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qe0-x22d.google.com (mail-qe0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si3299699qcn.1.2013.11.23.22.32.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22d; Received: by mail-qe0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 6so2572668qea.18 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.101.74 with SMTP id b10mr35619733qco.8.1385274724881; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.26.135 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 22:32:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131122234732.39e67c3a@aol.com> References: <20131110061823.79f7ae76@aol.com> <20131122234732.39e67c3a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:32:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Survey about learning the basic vocabulary From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c02::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133dbbae499c004ebe6678a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a1133dbbae499c004ebe6678a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Wuzzy wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:24:29 -0500 > Michael Turniansky wrote: > > Well, it depends on your definition. If you mean knowing the x1 and > > (where applicable) x2 places, then ALL of the non-experimental gismu, > > even the piddling ones that I will never have occasion to use, like > > gocti, stero, gotro and delno. For the further places, slightly less. > I was talking about the full gismu definition, including all places. > You also have to understood the meaning of the gismu, obviously, > otherwise, it doesn=92t count. > > Yes, of course the meaning. You stated that in your original query. I'd say that my knowing the all the places is probably around 1200-1300 gismu, then. It's a bit harder to measure. > > > 3) How many rafsi? > > About three thousand. Oh, did you mean only the 3 letter ones? > > Then probably about 300. The majority of those because of the lujvo > > vocabulary, and my interpreting of English/other language words, > > names, etc, as lojban, or the anagramming of English phrases and > > names as lojban utterances. > Yes, I meant short rafsi. 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On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Wuzzy <almikes@aol.com> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:24:= 29 -0500
Michael Turniansky <mturniansky= @gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0 Well, it depends on your definition. =A0If you mean knowing the x1= and
> (where applicable) x2 places, then ALL of the non-experimental gismu,<= br> > even the piddling =A0ones that I will never have occasion to use, like=
> gocti, stero, gotro and delno. =A0For the further places, slightly les= s.
I was talking about the full gismu definition, including all places.<= br> You also have to understood the meaning of the gismu, obviously,
otherwise, it doesn=92t count.

=A0 Yes, of course the meanin= g. =A0You stated that in your original query.
=A0 I'd say tha= t my knowing the all the places is probably around 1200-1300 gismu, then. = =A0It's a bit harder to measure.

=A0
> > 3) How many rafsi?
> =A0 About three thousand. =A0Oh, did you mean only the 3 letter ones?<= br> > Then probably about 300. =A0The majority of those because of the lujvo=
> vocabulary, and my interpreting of English/other language words,
> names, etc, as lojban, or the anagramming of English phrases and
> names as lojban utterances.
Yes, I meant short rafsi. My fault.

Thanks for participating in the survey.

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