Received: from mail-qa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.216.55]:44091) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VnNBu-0005Zf-3i for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:41:25 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id i13sf1243501qae.0 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:41:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3TfoaDR+SzuqJCpwWBQS2UQlKmhWYRNpBsbHyNny51w=; b=kLONXevogvIqQAuS61mqAD+YKB9P2PgbgXJgdTo32mR9yei0WVUhqihX9zmt6dZQMu mNVeQWkjsFz1gUGoLQtdA3mJQeva8MONBiMlxP+Md/m0hAb9CIqqQrsH3J1QXJkWZYiw E5sHD57g/PVnzq+RfJJsVS6E5D+OjqgIoU2gtI/6OWar9gxrH5SQ/3z49w7fntwAJfm9 vpT/jiUiXqyg2WzCm9XZS9G/ESs1AwUPSg6jJYEMPxx9Oacidnrg8L1vCieuYKtx963V NhqzMyqTBYLjc7hURIS+ueR8qjTFUelDZYq5k5sIoRtbttRYC6pSCvXGgYhgEu9CzaiM J30g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3TfoaDR+SzuqJCpwWBQS2UQlKmhWYRNpBsbHyNny51w=; b=KOoytAXEaRePjEXc0j6pt8lRKrHpDvMWGiEsw+uNX1llaYOssIIqFqYYHiBQvQ7Ctx 4wk3BPEwJk7174lWZlkdAYzMCJnAFwOBEPRTqD6M/UZ1XqjmDgAyFre/8m3P+oR6PSil /MS2R2l5lZLTsbOFLAYcLy3vifSpKCRwvllxD9G1huc4jwfW6nmT2jUuqLQ1nvKmV0TE 9aOHQjW+vzYw9NvOCCFHIsXjOK2Hp+ow5rH+lKAqBhrH83xwxaSQsqjERY8JYzuUJtU+ e/fLVAYBFFh7OTPI7SJfD6HZejTeQm6LaSNVjq+XZ7zCcpASZgH9XjhnR0YoT5cbB8/X IbtA== X-Received: by 10.49.51.104 with SMTP id j8mr13503qeo.18.1385966463741; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:41:03 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.118.233 with SMTP id kp9ls4041857qeb.4.gmail; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:41:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.51.104 with SMTP id j8mr13501qeo.18.1385966463291; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 22:41:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 22:41:02 -0800 (PST) From: lorxus To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20131127172149.49ff77c1@aol.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] An Attempt at Lojbanistan Txtspk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: coronacoreanici@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2769_24245514.1385966462653" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2769_24245514.1385966462653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wuzzy: lr?, not lr. Idea was to use xu. And no, not a pissing contest. Just= =20 something I thought would be interesting. C'V would be only really common= =20 ones, but quite context dependent. cntrational: did you even read it? 1f, 6m, 666. On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:07:06 AM UTC-5, la arxokuna wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Sid >w= rote: > >> A simple but still txtspk-y change is to use numbers -- jip0 for jipno,= =20 >> for example. I believe that most Lojban parsers around would actually wo= rk=20 >> with this; >> > > http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php doesn't work with this. {jip0} is= =20 > parsed only by ilmentufa for=20 > zasni gerna. > > they convert numbers to their Lojban equivalent. >> > > {0 lo jipno} is another case. > > =20 >> mi'e .cntr. >> >> >> >> On 27 November 2013 21:51, Wuzzy > wrote: >> >>> Am Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:13:42 -0800 (PST) >>> schrieb lorxus >: >>> >>> > coi rodo mi'e lorxus >>> > >>> > I was struck by a chunk of inspiration on the way home today; I >>> > wondered what Lojbanistani textspeak might look like, remembering the >>> > translation of some earlier. I want to see if anyone can figure out >>> > what it says, and thus whether it would be a plausible example of >>> > putative textspeak. >>> > >>> > c >>> > m'e lr? >>> > m?-cmene-d >>> > m-xabju l jbo-gd bu'u 1moi-tca >>> > m-tadni l cmaci >>> > ui m-glk l nu d-b-zi-vitke-m >>> > t'o ? l ckafi a tcati plk-d ; m-djn l 6m 6m kafzac ; m-tr-ven tez'e >>> > k-pnx t'o-n xenru l m-xlacus :( ; r l'a n-slabu ri'a r n-ri'i ;je >>> > ti-fnx kargu ;je m-c-c'o jdn-sl-nabmi 666 >>> > l m-1f-b-sispe'i-d bu'u l vij-tcan >>> > g'e "FIhI LA JBOGU'E" 66 >>> > m-d-zi-vsk >>> > c'o >>> > >>> > So there it is then. >>> > re'i! >>> > >>> >>> Ouch, my brain and eyes burn! I would feel enshamed if I ever >>> communicate in this way with any sane living being. ;-) >>> Briefly, I think this introduces many =93What the fuck?=94 features and >>> removes a lot of =93Oh, nice!=94 features of Lojban. >>> >>> Here are the =93What the fuck?=94 moments: >>> =93lr=94 =3D =93lorxus=94? =93lorxu=94 =85 Meh. >>> =93m?=94 =3D =93ma=94? Wow, that=92s pointless, it doesn=92t even save = you a letter. >>> xD >>> All words of the form =93consonant apostrophe vocal=94 are a *huge* WTF >>> for me. Yay let=92s just guess the missing vocal. You have a 80% chance >>> to be wrong. XD It would become especially fun for the =93k'o=94 series= . >>> Err, sorry, I meant =93ka'o=94 series. ;-) >>> Not to say that one has to remember a lot of abbreviations. Sorry, but >>> the rafsi are already enough for me. LOL. >>> Speaking of rafsi: How would textspeak deal with a very long lujvo, >>> not to say fu'ivla? >>> >>> Not that you think I have guessed correctly. Nope, I had to read your >>> solution first. >>> >>> And like you said, this pretty much destroys the non-ambigious grammar. >>> Not to say also a lot of other =93Oh, nice!=94 features in Lojban. >>> >>> Well, it=92s a nice Nerd=92s Pissing Contest. A joke. But nothing more,= so >>> I don=92t take anything of it seriously. And you shouldn=92t take my >>> response seriously, too. xD >>> >>> -- >>> Wuzzy >>> XMPP: Wuz...@jabber.ccc.de >>> E-Mail: wuz...@mail.ru >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 >>> an email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >>> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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Wuzzy: lr?, not lr. Idea was to use xu. And no, not a piss= ing contest. Just something I thought would be interesting. C'V would be on= ly really common ones, but quite context dependent.

cntrational: did= you even read it? 1f, 6m, 666.

On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:07:= 06 AM UTC-5, la arxokuna wrote:



On Thu, Nov 2= 8, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Sid <cntra...@gmail.com> wrote:
A simple but still txtspk-y change i= s to use numbers -- jip0 for jipno, for example. I believe that most Lojban= parsers around would actually work with this;

http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php&n= bsp;doesn't work with this. {jip0} is parsed only by ilmentufa for zasni g= erna.

they convert numbers= to their Lojban equivalent.

{0 lo jipno} is another case.<= /div>


mi'e .cntr.



On 27 November 2013 21:51, Wuzzy <alm...@aol.com= > wrote:
Am Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:13:42 -0800 (PST)
schrieb lorxus <coronac...@gmail.co= m>:

> coi rodo mi'e lorxus
>
> I was struck by a chunk of inspiration on the way home today; I
> wondered what Lojbanistani textspeak might look like, remembering the<= br> > translation of some earlier. I want to see if anyone can figure out > what it says, and thus whether it would be a plausible example of
> putative textspeak.
>
> c
> m'e lr?
> m?-cmene-d
> m-xabju l jbo-gd bu'u 1moi-tca
> m-tadni l cmaci
> ui m-glk l nu d-b-zi-vitke-m
> t'o ? l ckafi a tcati plk-d ; m-djn l 6m 6m kafzac ; m-tr-ven tez'e > k-pnx t'o-n xenru l m-xlacus :( ; r l'a n-slabu ri'a r n-ri'i ;je
> ti-fnx kargu ;je m-c-c'o jdn-sl-nabmi 666
> l m-1f-b-sispe'i-d bu'u l vij-tcan
> g'e "FIhI LA JBOGU'E" 66
> m-d-zi-vsk
> c'o
>
> So there it is then.
> re'i!
>

Ouch, my brain and eyes burn! I would feel enshamed if I ever
communicate in this way with any sane living being. ;-)
Briefly, I think this introduces many =93What the fuck?=94 features and
removes a lot of =93Oh, nice!=94 features of Lojban.

Here are the =93What the fuck?=94 moments:
=93lr=94 =3D =93lorxus=94? =93lorxu=94 =85 Meh.
=93m?=94 =3D =93ma=94? Wow, that=92s pointless, it doesn=92t even save you = a letter.
xD
All words of the form =93consonant apostrophe vocal=94 are a *huge* WTF
for me. Yay let=92s just guess the missing vocal. You have a 80% chance
to be wrong. XD It would become especially fun for the =93k'o=94 series. Err, sorry, I meant =93ka'o=94 series. ;-)
Not to say that one has to remember a lot of abbreviations. Sorry, but
the rafsi are already enough for me. LOL.
Speaking of rafsi: How would textspeak deal with a very long lujvo,
not to say fu'ivla?

Not that you think I have guessed correctly. Nope, I had to read your
solution first.

And like you said, this pretty much destroys the non-ambigious grammar.
Not to say also a lot of other =93Oh, nice!=94 features in Lojban.

Well, it=92s a nice Nerd=92s Pissing Contest. A joke. But nothing more, so<= br> I don=92t take anything of it seriously. And you shouldn=92t take my
response seriously, too. xD

--
Wuzzy
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E-Mail: wuz...@mail.ru

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