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Subject: Re: [lojban] An Interesting Use for a Rafsi
From: Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
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> Yay, one more experimental word in the discussion.
>
> Ilmen even explained it on IRC as lu .i zo na'ei smuni simsa zo na li'u
>
> To me it seems to be much closer to {to'e} than {na} though..
> Could you explain the problem this proposed word solves and
> the difference to {na} and {to'e} (in the best case by example)?
> Otherwise I don't get what you are trying to say.
>

According to what xorxes said in bpfk group {na'e} is the same as {na}  but
with a different scope. The author of {na'ei} thought otherwise.

{na} and {na'ei} differ in that {na} (supposedly, at least in Wave lessons)
negates everything to the right of the bridi. na'ei negates only the selbri
following it.

Tanru aside, {na'ei} exists in FOPL. It makes a predicate which holds true
for its arguments iff the original holds false for its arguments. It's in
NAhE but is not really all that semantically similar to the other NAhE. It
is also essentially the same as a {naku} at the *end* of a bridi.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Yay=
, one more experimental word in the discussion.<br>
<br>Ilmen even explained it on IRC as lu .i zo na&#39;ei smuni simsa zo na =
li&#39;u<br><br>To me it seems to be much closer to {to&#39;e} than {na} th=
ough..<br>Could you explain the problem this proposed word solves and<br>
the difference to {na} and {to&#39;e} (in the best case by example)?<br>Oth=
erwise I don&#39;t get what you are trying to say.<br></blockquote><div><br=
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 the same as {na} =A0but with a different scope. The author of {na&#39;ei} =
thought otherwise.</div>
<div><br></div><div>{na} and {na&#39;ei} differ in that {na} (supposedly, a=
t least in Wave lessons) negates everything to the right of the bridi. na&#=
39;ei negates only the selbri following it.</div></div><div><br></div>Tanru=
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or its arguments iff the original holds false for its arguments. It&#39;s i=
n NAhE but is not really all that semantically similar to the other NAhE. I=
t is also essentially the same as a {naku} at the *end* of a bridi.<div>
<br></div><div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o</div></div>

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