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Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 08:31:46 +0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] An Interesting Use for a Rafsi
From: Cyril Slobin <cyril@slobin.pp.ru>
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>> In Esperanto, e.g., it's obvious which is meant: "ne devas iri" vs. "dev=
as ne iri";
>> Russian (i.a.) shares this, I believe.

Alas Russian shares the problem with English: "=CE=C5 =C4=CF=CC=D6=C5=CE =
=C9=C4=D4=C9" *is*
ambiguous. If you must be clear with the first meaning, you just
change the verb from "=C4=CF=CC=D6=C5=CE" (must) to "=CF=C2=D1=DA=C1=CE" (o=
bliged). "=CE=C5 =CF=C2=D1=DA=C1=CE
=C9=C4=D4=C9" is absolutely clear the first meaning, not second.

On the other hand, "=C4=CF=CC=D6=C5=CE =CE=C5 =C9=C4=D4=C9" has clear secon=
d meaning, but is,
strictly speaking, illiterate. This form is used mainly by people that
know some programming language, and can be considered as a hack
speech.

In normal literate text, without weird logical assumptions, the
average reader would most likely understand "=CE=C5 =C4=CF=CC=D6=C5=CE =C9=
=C4=D4=C9" in a
second meaning.

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