Received: from mail-ea0-f188.google.com ([209.85.215.188]:53463) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VniKH-0004gd-EK for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:27 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f188.google.com with SMTP id l9sf1372235eaj.15 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Jl5avobJSCc1zZYFnbt4as2sliKsfN1oFh6xz+t2XJk=; b=RY71qugLFfoU8C8epI1D/dHC4Mduzqk8dt1ae2xstGhl4G7Nf9Ts6YF9gCcGDcASIK cIY3s0VxeraJG+X3Csh9ksl/BriC53H9OAXL2GegvrMSrj6FifAbkL+jp2Q1ETohOG8N 0Tod1CFN9+XVDVtu3JJvais12hRD35djd/njMnqEqfSvQIX1EVF95/F1kFMQfr9xX9kF AEGu96mbOf9KJwUXpbyWNmuqxNDZy3HhSWmWHjem5+aFbqufuUnzN2A19pTe5GXPYDC1 6f0oPnXS4HslCkvZyg8EwXGKak5IpOVOT541jzpEB8r6ihvRXYrA9KxgBkSds88YmUIl 7sng== X-Received: by 10.152.245.4 with SMTP id xk4mr3364lac.28.1386047706554; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.36.6 with SMTP id m6ls803785laj.108.gmail; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.27.73 with SMTP id r9mr29036736lag.4.1386047705842; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gi4si40198wib.3.2013.12.02.21.15.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::236; Received: by mail-wi0-x236.google.com with SMTP id en1so5947088wid.3 for ; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.185.73 with SMTP id fa9mr56651318wjc.29.1386047705699; Mon, 02 Dec 2013 21:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.60.78 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:15:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5a5ef8ed-6edc-4b42-b66a-b62ab12892b5@googlegroups.com> <9d92f1ca-16c4-41e0-a900-3a07da96c45e@googlegroups.com> <23483595-e654-4b6b-b5bc-94c422fd220b@googlegroups.com> <7a6e9ba7-368c-4d47-80f4-0331057eb27c@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 09:15:05 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Memorizing cmavo and gismu From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6b04823d9f204ec9a61a1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bd6b04823d9f204ec9a61a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, this thread can encourage someone to start memorising lojban words as well. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:02 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I don't see any reason to post non-errors anymore, either. > > stevo > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:44 AM, lorxus wrote: > >> PROGRESS UPDATE #3 (as if anyone is reading) >> Slow going over Thanksgiving break. Only just now got l9 done. Not much >> to say. >> gismu liste: >> >> bacru badna badri bajra bakni balvi bandu bangu banli banzu barda barja >> barna bartu basti batci bebna benji besna bevri bifce bilga bilma binxo >> birje birti bisli blabi blanu bolci bredi bridi briju broda brode brodi >> brodo brodu bruna bunre burna cabna cacra cadzu cafne cakla cando canko >> canre carmi carvi casnu catlu catra cerni certu cevni cfari cfipu ciblu >> cicna cidja cifnu cikna cikre ciksi cilre cinmo cinri cinse cipni cipra >> cirla ciska ciste citka citno cizra ckafi ckaji ckana ckiku ckire ckule >> cladu clani claxu clira cliva cmaci cmalu cmavo cmene cmila cmima cmoni >> cnano cnino cortu cpacu cpana cpedu cribe crida crino ctino ctuca cukta >> cumki cunso curmi cusku cuxna dacti damba danfu danlu dansu darno darxi >> dasni daspo datni denpa detri dilnu dinju djacu djedi djica djuno dotco >> drani drata dukse dunda dunli facki fadni fagri fanmo fanva fanza farlu >> fasnu fatci fengu fenki finpe finti flalu fliba flira fonxa fraso fraxu >> frica frili galfi galtu ganlo ganse ganxo gasnu gerku gerna girzu gismu >> glare gleki gletu glico gluta grusi gugde gunka gunma gunta gusni gusta >> jalge jarco jatna javni jbena jdice jdika jdini jeftu jetnu jgari jibni >> jibri jimpe jinga jinvi jipci jitfa jitro jmina jmive jorne judri jufra >> jukni jukpa jundi jungo junri kakne kalci kampu kancu kanla kanro kansa >> karce katna kelci kensa kerfa kerlo klaku klama krasi krici krinu krixa >> kucli kukte kulnu kumfa kurji labno ladru lakne lanzu lazni lebna lenku >> lerci lerfu lifri limna lisri liste litru logji lojbo loldi lorxu lujvo >> lumci lunra mabla makfa mamta manku mapti marna masno masti mekso melbi >> menli mensi mentu merko mikce milxe minde minji mintu mipri mitre mlatu >> mleca morji morsi mrilu mukti mulno munje mupli mutce muvdu nabmi namcu >> nanba nanca nandu nanla nanmu narju natfe nelci nenri nibli nicte ninmu >> nitcu nixli nobli notci nukni nuzba pacna pagbu palci panra pante panzi >> papri patfu pelxu pemci pendo penmi pensi pilno pinji pinka pinxe pixra >> platu plise pluja pluka ponjo ponse prami prenu preti prije pritu purci >> ractu rafsi ralju ralte rapli rectu remna renro rinju rinka rinsa rirni >> rismi rivbi rokci rupnu salci sampu sance sanga sanji sanmi sarcu saske >> satci senpi senva setca sevzi sidbo sidju simlu simsa simxu since sinma >> sinxa sipna sisku sisti skami skari skicu skina slabu smadi smaji smuni >> snada snanu snidu snime solji solri spaji speni spofu spoja spuda srana >> srera sruma stali steci stedu stidi stuzi sumti surla sutra tadji tadni >> tanru tansi tanxe taske tatpi tavla taxfu tcadu tcati tcica tcidu tcika >> tcima temci terdi terpa tirna titla tivni tordu traji tricu troci tsali >> tsani tugni turni tutci vajni valsi vanci vanju vasru vasxu vecnu verba >> vimcu viska vitke vlipa vofli voksa vorme vreji vrici vrude xabju xadba >> xadni xagji xajmi xalka xamgu xance xanka xanri xebni xekri xendo xlali >> xrabo xrani xrula xruti xukmi xunre xusra zabna zanru zarci zasti zbasu >> zdani zdile zenba zgana zgike zifre zirpu zmadu zukte zunle zutse zvati >> >> 492/1342 >> >> Not going to post errors anymore. >> >> >> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:41:13 PM UTC-5, lorxus wrote: >>> >>> coi rodo mi'e lorxus >>> >>> PROGRESS UPDATE #2 >>> My memorization is progressing well, and is well past the 1/3 mark. I've >>> noticed a significant improvement in my fluency now that I don't have to >>> search for gismu all the time. My current short-term goal is to get to >>> level 14 (where lorxu is!) now that I'm at level 8. I've also continued >>> accumulating gismu not yet covered, like words for wine, second (period of >>> time), and right (direction). Current list of known gismu: >>> >>> bacru badna badri bajra bakni balvi bandu bangu banli banzu barda barja >>> barna basti bebna benji besna bevri bifce bilga bilma binxo birje birti >>> bisli blabi blanu bolci bredi bridi briju broda brode brodi brodo brodu >>> bruna bunre burna cabna cacra cadzu cafne cakla cando canre carmi carvi >>> casnu catlu catra cerni certu cevni cfari cfipu ciblu cicna cidja cifnu >>> cikna cikre ciksi cilre cinmo cinri cinse cipni cipra ciska ciste citka >>> citno cizra ckafi ckaji ckana ckiku ckire ckule cladu clani claxu clira >>> cliva cmaci cmalu cmavo cmene cmila cmima cmoni cnano cnino cortu cpacu >>> cpana cpedu cribe crino ctino ctuca cukta cumki cunso curmi cusku cuxna >>> dacti damba danfu danlu dansu darno darxi dasni daspo denpa djacu djedi >>> djica djuno dotco drani drata dukse dunda dunli facki fadni fagri fanmo >>> fanva fanza farlu fasnu fengu fenki finpe finti fliba flira fonxa fraso >>> fraxu frica frili galfi galtu ganlo ganxo gasnu gerku gerna girzu gismu >>> glare gleki gletu glico gluta grusi gugde gunka gunma gunta gusni jalge >>> jarco jatna javni jbena jdice jdini jeftu jetnu jgari jibni jibri jimpe >>> jinga jinvi jipci jitfa jitro jmina jmive jorne judri jufra jukni jukpa >>> jundi jungo kakne kampu kancu kanla kanro kansa karce kelci kensa kerfa >>> kerlo klaku klama krasi krici krinu kucli kukte kumfa kurji labno lanzu >>> lazni lebna lenku lerci lerfu lifri lisri liste litru logji lojbo lorxu >>> lujvo lumci lunra mabla makfa mamta mapti marna masno masti melbi menli >>> mensi mentu merko mikce milxe minde minji mintu mipri mitre mlatu mleca >>> morji morsi mrilu mukti mulno munje mupli mutce muvdu nabmi namcu nanba >>> nanca nandu nanla nanmu narju natfe nelci nenri nibli nicte ninmu nitcu >>> nixli nobli nukni nuzba pacna pagbu palci patfu pelxu pendo penmi pensi >>> pilno pinji pinxe pixra platu plise pluja pluka ponjo ponse prami prenu >>> preti prije pritu purci ractu rafsi ralju ralte rectu remna renro rinju >>> rinka rinsa rirni rismi rivbi rokci rupnu salci sampu sance sanga sanji >>> sanmi sarcu saske satci senpi senva setca sidbo sidju simlu simsa simxu >>> sinxa sipna sisku sisti skami skari skicu skina slabu smadi smaji smuni >>> snada snanu snidu snime solji solri spaji speni spofu spoja spuda srana >>> srera sruma stali steci stedu stidi stuzi sumti surla sutra tadji tadni >>> tanru tansi tanxe taske tatpi tavla taxfu tcadu tcati tcica tcidu tcika >>> tcima temci terdi terpa tirna titla tivni traji tricu troci tsali tsani >>> tugni turni vajni valsi vanju vasru vasxu vecnu verba vimcu viska vitke >>> vofli voksa vreji vrude xabju xadba xadni xagji xajmi xalka xamgu xance >>> xanri xebni xekri xlali xrabo xrani xrula xruti xukmi xunre xusra zanru >>> zarci zasti zbasu zdani zdile zenba zgana zgike zifre zirpu zmadu zukte >>> zunle zutse zvati >>> >>> Total: 447/1342 >>> >>> (I'm not going to put my error list here anymore unless people request >>> it.) >>> >>> As before, please feel free to tweet at me at @lorxus to quiz me on >>> these; I could use the surprises and will find a way to adequately reward >>> those who do. >>> >>> re'i do >>> >>> On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:51:31 PM UTC-5, lorxus wrote: >>>> >>>> coi rodo mi'e lorxus >>>> >>>> PROGRESS UPDATE #1 >>>> I've opted to start on the gismu rather than the cmavo, and I've been >>>> using the very helpful Lojban gismu stack on Memrise. Current list of known >>>> gismu: >>>> >>>> bacru badna badri bakni balvi bandu banli banzu barda barna bebna benji >>>> bevri bifce bilga bilma binxo birti blabi blanu bredi bridi briju broda >>>> bunre burna cabna cacra cadzu cafne canre carmi carvi catlu catra cerni >>>> certu cevni cfipu cicna cidja cikna cikre ciksi cilre cinmo cinri cinse >>>> cipra ciska citka ckafi ckaji ckule clani cliva cmaci cmalu cmavo cmene >>>> cmima cmoni cnano cnino cortu cpacu cribe crino ctino ctuca cukta cumki >>>> curmi cusku danlu dansu darxi denpa djacu djedi djica djuno dotco drani >>>> dukse dunda dunli facki fanva fanza fasnu fengu fenki finpe finti fliba >>>> fonxa fraxu frica frili galfi ganlo ganxo gasnu gerku gerna gismu glare >>>> gleki gletu glico gluta grusi gugde gunka jdice jetnu jgari jibni jibri >>>> jimpe jinvi jitfa jmive jufra jukpa jundi jungo kakne kampu kanla kanro >>>> kansa karce kelci klama krici krinu kucli kukte kumfa labno lazni lenku >>>> lerfu lisri logji lojbo lorxu lumci lunra mabla makfa mamta mapti masno >>>> melbi menli milxe minji mipri mlatu morji morsi mrilu mukti mulno munje >>>> mupli mutce muvdu nabmi nanca nandu nanmu narju natfe nelci nenri nicte >>>> ninmu nitcu nobli nukni nuzba pagbu palci patfu pelxu pendo penmi pensi >>>> pilno pinji pinxe pixra plise pluja pluka ponse prenu preti purci ractu >>>> ralte remna rinka rinsa rupnu salci sampu sance sanga sanji sarcu senva >>>> sidbo sidju simlu simsa sipna sisku sisti skami skicu skina slabu smadi >>>> smaji smuni snada snanu speni spofu spoja spuda srana srera sruma stali >>>> stedu stidi stuzi surla sutra tadji tadni tanxe taske tatpi tavla tcati >>>> tcidu tcika temci terdi terpa tirna titla traji troci tsali tsani tugni >>>> vajni valsi vasru vasxu viska vitke voksa vreji vrude xabju xagji xajmi >>>> xamgu xebni xekri xlali xrabo xrula xruti xunre xusra zarci zasti zbasu >>>> zdani zdile zenba zgike zirpu zmadu zukte zvati >>>> >>>> >>>> Total: 296/1342 >>>> >>>> >>>> gismu erred on and not yet correctly watered: (this list will probably >>>> increase when I will be required to water lessons 1-4 again) >>>> briju (office) >>>> ckaji (characterized by) >>>> ctino (shadow) >>>> pluja (complicated) >>>> sarcu (necessary) >>>> surla (relax) >>>> xusra (assert) >>>> >>>> Please feel free to tweet at me at @lorxus to quiz me on these; I could >>>> use the surprises and will find a way to adequately reward those who do. >>>> >>>> re'i >>>> >>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:15:59 PM UTC-5, lorxus wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will do in the future. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:42:02 AM UTC-5, stevo wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> And maybe list them horizontally, not vertically? >>>>>> >>>>>> stevo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a heads-up. Started reading through your list out of curiosity >>>>>>> to see how many I knew and found a typo in the "c"s. "cukte" I'm guessing >>>>>>> maybe you meant "cukta"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may want to run these through a word-list checker or something >>>>>>> to make sure they're all spelled correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only advice I can offer is to guarantee that you *know* how >>>>>>>> the cmavo works before memorizing it. Far too many times do nintadni come >>>>>>>> into IRC saying that the cmavo definitions are opaque and impossible to >>>>>>>> learn from, at which point the most sensible answer we can provide is >>>>>>>> "yes." >>>>>>>> The cmavo definitions are not meant to be learned from, really. >>>>>>>> They're best used as a reference for someone who already knows how the >>>>>>>> work, having been taught how to use them in the CLL or a guide such as the >>>>>>>> Waves. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10 November 2013 02:46, lorxus wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you so much! I've already learned a couple of new words. >>>>>>>>> Progress reports to follow every Saturday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:32:39 AM UTC-5, aionys wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The two flash card programs most used are Anki and Memrise. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anki is offline, Memrise online, and you can find all the various >>>>>>>>>> Lojban sets by searching for them within their respective search features. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't know how many different sets there are, but I do know >>>>>>>>>> that at the least this set- http://www.memrise.com/course/ >>>>>>>>>> 37344/simplified-gismu/- exists in both Memrise and Anki, and I believe they both have >>>>>>>>>> pronunciation audio. I know the Memrise version does because I put it there >>>>>>>>>> myself, but Robin did the Anki version. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:15 AM, lorxus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> coi rodo >>>>>>>>>>> .i mi'e lorxus >>>>>>>>>>> .ua de'e ba barda >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apparently I have given myself not nearly enough credit. At any >>>>>>>>>>> rate: I want to track my progress and solicit advice; I'm going to start >>>>>>>>>>> memorizing all the gismu and cmavo. The list of what I have memorized so >>>>>>>>>>> far is below. Further: any suggestions as to 1) what would be useful for me >>>>>>>>>>> to memorize next and 2) where I can find a good flashcard set. Note: there >>>>>>>>>>> may be a few gismu and cmavo that I don't remember that I remember, but >>>>>>>>>>> could identify - I am working off of what I remember. Also - if this is the >>>>>>>>>>> wrong place for this, please point me to a place which is correct for it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> le so'u gismu zo'u li pa re bi (128/1342 = 9.53%) >>>>>>>>>>> balvi >>>>>>>>>>> barda >>>>>>>>>>> barna >>>>>>>>>>> benji >>>>>>>>>>> bifce >>>>>>>>>>> binxo >>>>>>>>>>> blabi >>>>>>>>>>> blanu >>>>>>>>>>> bredi >>>>>>>>>>> bridi >>>>>>>>>>> broda >>>>>>>>>>> bunre >>>>>>>>>>> burna >>>>>>>>>>> cabna >>>>>>>>>>> canre >>>>>>>>>>> carmi >>>>>>>>>>> cicna >>>>>>>>>>> cidja >>>>>>>>>>> cinmo >>>>>>>>>>> citka >>>>>>>>>>> cliva >>>>>>>>>>> cmaci >>>>>>>>>>> cmalu >>>>>>>>>>> cmavo >>>>>>>>>>> cmene >>>>>>>>>>> cmoni >>>>>>>>>>> crino >>>>>>>>>>> cribe >>>>>>>>>>> cukte >>>>>>>>>>> cusku >>>>>>>>>>> danlu >>>>>>>>>>> denpa >>>>>>>>>>> djedi >>>>>>>>>>> djica >>>>>>>>>>> djuno >>>>>>>>>>> drani >>>>>>>>>>> dunda >>>>>>>>>>> facki >>>>>>>>>>> fanva >>>>>>>>>>> fasnu >>>>>>>>>>> fraxu >>>>>>>>>>> frili >>>>>>>>>>> ganlo >>>>>>>>>>> ganxo >>>>>>>>>>> gasnu >>>>>>>>>>> gerku >>>>>>>>>>> gismu >>>>>>>>>>> gleki >>>>>>>>>>> gletu >>>>>>>>>>> grusi >>>>>>>>>>> gunka >>>>>>>>>>> jetnu >>>>>>>>>>> jimpe >>>>>>>>>>> jitfa >>>>>>>>>>> jmive >>>>>>>>>>> jufra >>>>>>>>>>> jundi >>>>>>>>>>> kakne >>>>>>>>>>> kanla >>>>>>>>>>> karce >>>>>>>>>>> klama >>>>>>>>>>> kukte >>>>>>>>>>> labno >>>>>>>>>>> lenku >>>>>>>>>>> lorxu >>>>>>>>>>> lumci >>>>>>>>>>> mabla >>>>>>>>>>> melbi >>>>>>>>>>> milxe >>>>>>>>>>> mipri >>>>>>>>>>> mlatu >>>>>>>>>>> morji >>>>>>>>>>> morsi >>>>>>>>>>> mukti >>>>>>>>>>> munje >>>>>>>>>>> mutce >>>>>>>>>>> nanca >>>>>>>>>>> nanmu >>>>>>>>>>> narju >>>>>>>>>>> natfe >>>>>>>>>>> nenri >>>>>>>>>>> ninmu >>>>>>>>>>> nitcu >>>>>>>>>>> nobli >>>>>>>>>>> nukni >>>>>>>>>>> pelxu >>>>>>>>>>> pensi >>>>>>>>>>> pilno >>>>>>>>>>> pinxe >>>>>>>>>>> pixra >>>>>>>>>>> plise >>>>>>>>>>> pluka >>>>>>>>>>> prenu >>>>>>>>>>> purci >>>>>>>>>>> ractu >>>>>>>>>>> ralte >>>>>>>>>>> remna >>>>>>>>>>> rinka >>>>>>>>>>> rupnu >>>>>>>>>>> salci >>>>>>>>>>> simlu >>>>>>>>>>> sipna >>>>>>>>>>> srera >>>>>>>>>>> stali >>>>>>>>>>> stedi >>>>>>>>>>> stuzi >>>>>>>>>>> tanxe >>>>>>>>>>> taske >>>>>>>>>>> tavla >>>>>>>>>>> tcika >>>>>>>>>>> terdi >>>>>>>>>>> titla >>>>>>>>>>> troci >>>>>>>>>>> valsi >>>>>>>>>>> vasru >>>>>>>>>>> vasxu >>>>>>>>>>> viska >>>>>>>>>>> vrude >>>>>>>>>>> xagji >>>>>>>>>>> xamgu >>>>>>>>>>> xekri >>>>>>>>>>> xlali >>>>>>>>>>> xrula >>>>>>>>>>> xunre >>>>>>>>>>> zasti >>>>>>>>>>> zdani >>>>>>>>>>> zirpu >>>>>>>>>>> zukte >>>>>>>>>>> zvati >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> le so'u cmavo zo'u li re no re (203/1090- = 18.6+%, not counting >>>>>>>>>>> anything that is also a rafsi, or any compounds) >>>>>>>>>>> .a >>>>>>>>>>> .abu >>>>>>>>>>> .au >>>>>>>>>>> .e >>>>>>>>>>> .ebu >>>>>>>>>>> .i >>>>>>>>>>> .i'e >>>>>>>>>>> .ibu >>>>>>>>>>> .ie >>>>>>>>>>> .ii >>>>>>>>>>> .ija >>>>>>>>>>> .ije >>>>>>>>>>> .ijo >>>>>>>>>>> .iju >>>>>>>>>>> .iu >>>>>>>>>>> .o >>>>>>>>>>> .obu >>>>>>>>>>> .oi >>>>>>>>>>> .u >>>>>>>>>>> .u'i >>>>>>>>>>> .ua >>>>>>>>>>> .ubu >>>>>>>>>>> .ui >>>>>>>>>>> .uu >>>>>>>>>>> .y'ybu >>>>>>>>>>> .ybu >>>>>>>>>>> ba >>>>>>>>>>> ba'o >>>>>>>>>>> bi >>>>>>>>>>> bo >>>>>>>>>>> bu >>>>>>>>>>> bu'o >>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>> ca >>>>>>>>>>> ca'a >>>>>>>>>>> ca'o >>>>>>>>>>> cai >>>>>>>>>>> ci >>>>>>>>>>> ci'i >>>>>>>>>>> co'e >>>>>>>>>>> co'o >>>>>>>>>>> coi >>>>>>>>>>> cu'e >>>>>>>>>>> cu'i >>>>>>>>>>> cy >>>>>>>>>>> da >>>>>>>>>>> dai >>>>>>>>>>> de >>>>>>>>>>> di >>>>>>>>>>> di'u >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> doi >>>>>>>>>>> du >>>>>>>>>>> du'u >>>>>>>>>>> dy >>>>>>>>>>> fa >>>>>>>>>>> fa'o >>>>>>>>>>> fe >>>>>>>>>>> fe'u >>>>>>>>>>> fi >>>>>>>>>>> fi'o >>>>>>>>>>> fo >>>>>>>>>>> fo'a >>>>>>>>>>> fo'e >>>>>>>>>>> fo'i >>>>>>>>>>> fo'o >>>>>>>>>>> fo'u >>>>>>>>>>> fu >>>>>>>>>>> fy >>>>>>>>>>> ga >>>>>>>>>>> ga'i >>>>>>>>>>> ge >>>>>>>>>>> gi >>>>>>>>>>> gi'a >>>>>>>>>>> gi'e >>>>>>>>>>> gi'i >>>>>>>>>>> gi'o >>>>>>>>>>> gi'u >>>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>>> go'i >>>>>>>>>>> goi >>>>>>>>>>> gu >>>>>>>>>>> gy >>>>>>>>>>> je'e >>>>>>>>>>> ju'i >>>>>>>>>>> ju'o >>>>>>>>>>> ju'u >>>>>>>>>>> jy >>>>>>>>>>> ka >>>>>>>>>>> ka'e >>>>>>>>>>> kau >>>>>>>>>>> kei >>>>>>>>>>> ki'a >>>>>>>>>>> ki'e >>>>>>>>>>> ko >>>>>>>>>>> ko'a >>>>>>>>>>> ko'e >>>>>>>>>>> ko'i >>>>>>>>>>> ko'o >>>>>>>>>>> ko'u >>>>>>>>>>> ku >>>>>>>>>>> ku'i >>>>>>>>>>> ku'o >>>>>>>>>>> ky >>>>>>>>>>> la >>>>>>>>>>> la'i >>>>>>>>>>> la'e >>>>>>>>>>> le >>>>>>>>>>> le'i >>>>>>>>>>> lei >>>>>>>>>>> li >>>>>>>>>>> li'u >>>>>>>>>>> lo >>>>>>>>>>> lo'i >>>>>>>>>>> loi >>>>>>>>>>> lu >>>>>>>>>>> ly >>>>>>>>>>> ma >>>>>>>>>>> mi >>>>>>>>>>> mi'a >>>>>>>>>>> mi'e >>>>>>>>>>> mi'o >>>>>>>>>>> mo >>>>>>>>>>> mu >>>>>>>>>>> mu'o >>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>> na >>>>>>>>>>> na'e >>>>>>>>>>> ni >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>> noi >>>>>>>>>>> nu >>>>>>>>>>> ny >>>>>>>>>>> pa >>>>>>>>>>> pai >>>>>>>>>>> pe >>>>>>>>>>> pe'u >>>>>>>>>>> pei >>>>>>>>>>> pi >>>>>>>>>>> pi'i >>>>>>>>>>> po >>>>>>>>>>> po'e >>>>>>>>>>> poi >>>>>>>>>>> pu >>>>>>>>>>> pu'o >>>>>>>>>>> py >>>>>>>>>>> re >>>>>>>>>>> re'e >>>>>>>>>>> re'i >>>>>>>>>>> ro >>>>>>>>>>> ro'e >>>>>>>>>>> ro'u >>>>>>>>>>> ru'e >>>>>>>>>>> ry >>>>>>>>>>> sa >>>>>>>>>>> sai >>>>>>>>>>> se >>>>>>>>>>> si >>>>>>>>>>> si'o >>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>> so'a >>>>>>>>>>> so'e >>>>>>>>>>> so'i >>>>>>>>>>> so'o >>>>>>>>>>> so'u >>>>>>>>>>> su >>>>>>>>>>> su'i >>>>>>>>>>> sy >>>>>>>>>>> ta >>>>>>>>>>> ta'o >>>>>>>>>>> te >>>>>>>>>>> ti >>>>>>>>>>> to'e >>>>>>>>>>> tu >>>>>>>>>>> tu'e >>>>>>>>>>> tu'u >>>>>>>>>>> ty >>>>>>>>>>> va >>>>>>>>>>> vau >>>>>>>>>>> ve >>>>>>>>>>> vi >>>>>>>>>>> vo >>>>>>>>>>> vu >>>>>>>>>>> vy >>>>>>>>>>> xa >>>>>>>>>>> xa'o >>>>>>>>>>> xe >>>>>>>>>>> xi >>>>>>>>>>> xo >>>>>>>>>>> xy >>>>>>>>>>> y >>>>>>>>>>> za >>>>>>>>>>> za'o >>>>>>>>>>> ze >>>>>>>>>>> zi >>>>>>>>>>> zi'e >>>>>>>>>>> zo >>>>>>>>>>> zo'e >>>>>>>>>>> zo'o >>>>>>>>>>> zo'u >>>>>>>>>>> zoi >>>>>>>>>>> zu >>>>>>>>>>> zy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (And if you've been nice enough to read these, here's my >>>>>>>>>>> proposal for a Lojbanic ROYGBIV: xenpecycabzan - hand-touch-currently- >>>>>>>>>>> favorable.) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "lojban" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do >>>>>>>>>> zo'o >>>>>>>>>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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Well, this thread can encourage someone to start memorisin= g lojban words as well.


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:02 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw= @gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see any reason to= post non-errors anymore, either.=A0

stevo


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at = 1:44 AM, lorxus <coronacoreanici@gmail.com> wrote:
PROGRESS UPDATE #3 (as if a= nyone is reading)
Slow going over Thanksgiving break. Only just now got = l9 done. Not much to say.
gismu liste:

bacru badna badri bajra bakni balvi bandu bangu banli banzu barda barja barna bartu basti batci bebna benji besna bevri bifce bilga bilma binxo birje birti bisli blabi blanu bolci bredi bridi briju broda brode brodi brodo brodu bruna bunre burna cabna cacra cadzu cafne cakla cando canko canre carmi carvi casnu catlu catra cerni certu cevni cfari cfipu ciblu cicna cidja cifnu cikna cikre ciksi cilre cinmo cinri cinse cipni cipra cirla ciska ciste citka citno cizra ckafi ckaji ckana ckiku ckire ckule cladu clani claxu clira cliva cmaci cmalu cmavo cmene cmila cmima cmoni cnano cnino cortu cpacu cpana cpedu cribe crida crino ctino ctuca cukta cumki cunso curmi cusku cuxna dacti damba danfu danlu dansu darno darxi dasni daspo datni denpa detri dilnu dinju djacu djedi djica djuno dotco drani drata dukse dunda dunli facki fadni fagri fanmo fanva fanza farlu fasnu fatci fengu fenki finpe finti flalu fliba flira fonxa fraso fraxu frica frili galfi galtu ganlo ganse ganxo gasnu gerku gerna girzu gismu glare gleki gletu glico gluta grusi gugde gunka gunma gunta gusni gusta jalge jarco jatna javni jbena jdice jdika jdini jeftu jetnu jgari jibni jibri jimpe jinga jinvi jipci jitfa jitro jmina jmive jorne judri jufra jukni jukpa jundi jungo junri kakne kalci kampu kancu kanla kanro kansa karce katna kelci kensa kerfa kerlo klaku klama krasi krici krinu krixa kucli kukte kulnu kumfa kurji labno ladru lakne lanzu lazni lebna lenku lerci lerfu lifri limna lisri liste litru logji lojbo loldi lorxu lujvo lumci lunra mabla makfa mamta manku mapti marna masno masti mekso melbi menli mensi mentu merko mikce milxe minde minji mintu mipri mitre mlatu mleca morji morsi mrilu mukti mulno munje mupli mutce muvdu nabmi namcu nanba nanca nandu nanla nanmu narju natfe nelci nenri nibli nicte ninmu nitcu nixli nobli notci nukni nuzba pacna pagbu palci panra pante panzi papri patfu pelxu pemci pendo penmi pensi pilno pinji pinka pinxe pixra platu plise pluja pluka ponjo ponse prami prenu preti prije pritu purci ractu rafsi ralju ralte rapli rectu remna renro rinju rinka rinsa rirni rismi rivbi rokci rupnu salci sampu sance sanga sanji sanmi sarcu saske satci senpi senva setca sevzi sidbo sidju simlu simsa simxu since sinma sinxa sipna sisku sisti skami skari skicu skina slabu smadi smaji smuni snada snanu snidu snime solji solri spaji speni spofu spoja spuda srana srera sruma stali steci stedu stidi stuzi sumti surla sutra tadji tadni tanru tansi tanxe taske tatpi tavla taxfu tcadu tcati tcica tcidu tcika tcima temci terdi terpa tirna titla tivni tordu traji tricu troci tsali tsani tugni turni tutci vajni valsi vanci vanju vasru vasxu vecnu verba vimcu viska vitke vlipa vofli voksa vorme vreji vrici vrude xabju xadba xadni xagji xajmi xalka xamgu xance xanka xanri xebni xekri xendo xlali xrabo xrani xrula xruti xukmi xunre xusra zabna zanru zarci zasti zbasu zdani zdile zenba zgana zgike zifre zirpu zmadu zukte zunle zutse zvati


492/1342

Not going to post errors anymore.


On S= unday, November 24, 2013 10:41:13 PM UTC-5, lorxus wrote:
coi rodo mi'e lorxus

PROGRESS UPDATE #2
My m= emorization is progressing well, and is well past the 1/3 mark. I've no= ticed a significant improvement in my fluency now that I don't have to = search for gismu all the time. My current short-term goal is to get to leve= l 14 (where lorxu is!) now that I'm at level 8. I've also continued= accumulating gismu not yet covered, like words for wine, second (period of= time), and right (direction). Current list of known gismu:

bacru badna badri bajra bakni balvi bandu bangu banli banzu barda barja barna basti bebna benji besna bevri bifce bilga bilma binxo birje birti bisli blabi blanu bolci bredi bridi briju broda brode brodi brodo brodu bruna bunre burna cabna cacra cadzu cafne cakla cando canre carmi carvi casnu catlu catra cerni certu cevni cfari cfipu ciblu cicna cidja cifnu cikna cikre ciksi cilre cinmo cinri cinse cipni cipra ciska ciste citka citno cizra ckafi ckaji ckana ckiku ckire ckule cladu clani claxu clira cliva cmaci cmalu cmavo cmene cmila cmima cmoni cnano cnino cortu cpacu cpana cpedu cribe crino ctino ctuca cukta cumki cunso curmi cusku cuxna dacti damba danfu danlu dansu darno darxi dasni daspo denpa djacu djedi djica djuno dotco drani drata dukse dunda dunli facki fadni fagri fanmo fanva fanza farlu fasnu fengu fenki finpe finti fliba flira fonxa fraso fraxu frica frili galfi galtu ganlo ganxo gasnu gerku gerna girzu gismu glare gleki gletu glico gluta grusi gugde gunka gunma gunta gusni jalge jarco jatna javni jbena jdice jdini jeftu jetnu jgari jibni jibri jimpe jinga jinvi jipci jitfa jitro jmina jmive jorne judri jufra jukni jukpa jundi jungo kakne kampu kancu kanla kanro kansa karce kelci kensa kerfa kerlo klaku klama krasi krici krinu kucli kukte kumfa kurji labno lanzu lazni lebna lenku lerci lerfu lifri lisri liste litru logji lojbo lorxu lujvo lumci lunra mabla makfa mamta mapti marna masno masti melbi menli mensi mentu merko mikce milxe minde minji mintu mipri mitre mlatu mleca morji morsi mrilu mukti mulno munje mupli mutce muvdu nabmi namcu nanba nanca nandu nanla nanmu narju natfe nelci nenri nibli nicte ninmu nitcu nixli nobli nukni nuzba pacna pagbu palci patfu pelxu pendo penmi pensi pilno pinji pinxe pixra platu plise pluja pluka ponjo ponse prami prenu preti prije pritu purci ractu rafsi ralju ralte rectu remna renro rinju rinka rinsa rirni rismi rivbi rokci rupnu salci sampu sance sanga sanji sanmi sarcu saske satci senpi senva setca sidbo sidju simlu simsa simxu sinxa sipna sisku sisti skami skari skicu skina slabu smadi smaji smuni snada snanu snidu snime solji solri spaji speni spofu spoja spuda srana srera sruma stali steci stedu stidi stuzi sumti surla sutra tadji tadni tanru tansi tanxe taske tatpi tavla taxfu tcadu tcati tcica tcidu tcika tcima temci terdi terpa tirna titla tivni traji tricu troci tsali tsani tugni turni vajni valsi vanju vasru vasxu vecnu verba vimcu viska vitke vofli voksa vreji vrude xabju xadba xadni xagji xajmi xalka xamgu xance xanri xebni xekri xlali xrabo xrani xrula xruti xukmi xunre xusra zanru zarci zasti zbasu zdani zdile zenba zgana zgike zifre zirpu zmadu zukte zunle zutse zvati


Total: 447/1342

(I'm not going to put my error list here any= more unless people request it.)

As before, please feel free to tweet= at me at @lorxus to quiz me on these; I could=20 use the surprises and will find a way to adequately reward those who do.
re'i do

On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:51:31 PM UTC-5, lor= xus wrote:
coi rodo mi'e lorxus

PROGRESS UPDATE #1
I= 9;ve opted to start on the gismu rather than the cmavo, and I've been u= sing the very helpful Lojban gismu stack on Memrise. Current list of known = gismu:

bacru badna badri bakni balvi bandu banli banzu barda barna bebna benji bevri bifce bilga bilma binxo birti blabi blanu bredi bridi briju broda bunre burna cabna cacra cadzu cafne canre carmi carvi catlu catra cerni certu cevni cfipu cicna cidja cikna cikre ciksi cilre cinmo cinri cinse cipra ciska citka ckafi ckaji ckule clani cliva cmaci cmalu cmavo cmene cmima cmoni cnano cnino cortu cpacu cribe crino ctino ctuca cukta cumki curmi cusku danlu dansu darxi denpa djacu djedi djica djuno dotco drani dukse dunda dunli facki fanva fanza fasnu fengu fenki finpe finti fliba fonxa fraxu frica frili galfi ganlo ganxo gasnu gerku gerna gismu glare gleki gletu glico gluta grusi gugde gunka jdice jetnu jgari jibni jibri jimpe jinvi jitfa jmive jufra jukpa jundi jungo kakne kampu kanla kanro kansa karce kelci klama krici krinu kucli kukte kumfa labno lazni lenku lerfu lisri logji lojbo lorxu lumci lunra mabla makfa mamta mapti masno melbi menli milxe minji mipri mlatu morji morsi mrilu mukti mulno munje mupli mutce muvdu nabmi nanca nandu nanmu narju natfe nelci nenri nicte ninmu nitcu nobli nukni nuzba pagbu palci patfu pelxu pendo penmi pensi pilno pinji pinxe pixra plise pluja pluka ponse prenu preti purci ractu ralte remna rinka rinsa rupnu salci sampu sance sanga sanji sarcu senva sidbo sidju simlu simsa sipna sisku sisti skami skicu skina slabu smadi smaji smuni snada snanu speni spofu spoja spuda srana srera sruma stali stedu stidi stuzi surla sutra tadji tadni tanxe taske tatpi tavla tcati tcidu tcika temci terdi terpa tirna titla traji troci tsali tsani tugni vajni valsi vasru vasxu viska vitke voksa vreji vrude xabju xagji xajmi xamgu xebni xekri xlali xrabo xrula xruti xunre xusra zarci zasti zbasu zdani zdile zenba zgike zirpu zmadu zukte zvati


Total: 296/1342

gismu erred on and not yet correctly w= atered: (this list will probably increase when I will be required to water = lessons 1-4 again)

briju (office)
ckaji (characterized by)
ctino (shadow)
pluja (com= plicated)
sarcu (necessary)
surla (relax)
xusra (assert)

P= lease feel free to tweet at me at @lorxus to quiz me on these; I could use = the surprises and will find a way to adequately reward those who do.

re'i

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:15:59 PM UTC-5, lorxus = wrote:
Will do in t= he future.

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:42:02 AM UTC-5, stevo wrote:
And maybe list them horizontally,=A0not=A0vertically?=A0

stevo<= /div>


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at = 11:33 AM, Luke Bergen <lukea...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a heads-up. =A0Started= reading through your list out of curiosity to see how many I knew and foun= d a typo in the "c"s. =A0"cukte" I'm guessing maybe= you meant "cukta"?

You may want to run these through a word-list checker or something to m= ake sure they're all spelled correctly.

<= br>
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Jacob Errington <n= ict...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only advice I can offer= is to guarantee that you know how the cmavo works before memorizing= it. Far too many times do nintadni come into IRC saying that the cmavo def= initions are opaque and impossible to learn from, at which point the most s= ensible answer we can provide is "yes."
The cmavo definitions are not meant to be learned from, really. They're= best used as a reference for someone who already knows how the work, havin= g been taught how to use them in the CLL or a guide such as the Waves.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o



On 10 November 2013 02:46, lorxus <coro= nac...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you so much! I've= already learned a couple of new words. Progress reports to follow every Sa= turday.


On Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:32:39 AM UTC-5, aionys wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border= -left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The two flash card programs most used are Anki and Memrise.

Anki is offline, Memrise online, and you can find all the various Lojban= sets by searching for them within their respective search features.

I don't know how many different sets there are, but I do know= that at the least this set- http://www.memrise.com/course/37344/simplified-gismu/ - = exists in both Memrise and Anki, and I believe they both have pronunciation= audio. I know the Memrise version does because I put it there myself, but = Robin did the Anki version.


On Sun, Nov 1= 0, 2013 at 12:15 AM, lorxus <coronac...@gmail.com> wrote:
coi r= odo
.i mi'e lorxus
.ua de'e ba barda

Apparently I have= given myself not nearly enough credit. At any rate: I want to track my pro= gress and solicit advice; I'm going to start memorizing all the gismu a= nd cmavo. The list of what I have memorized so far is below. Further: any s= uggestions as to 1) what would be useful for me to memorize next and 2) whe= re I can find a good flashcard set. Note: there may be a few gismu and cmav= o that I don't remember that I remember, but could identify - I am work= ing off of what I remember. Also - if this is the wrong place for this, ple= ase point me to a place which is correct for it.

le so'u gismu zo'u li pa re bi (128/1342 =3D 9.53%)
balvibarda
barna
benji
bifce
binxo
blabi
blanu
bredi
br= idi
broda
bunre
burna
cabna
canre
carmi
cicna
cidja=
cinmo
citka
cliva
cmaci
cmalu
cmavo
cmene
cmoni
cri= no
cribe
cukte
cusku
danlu
denpa
djedi
djica
djuno<= br>drani
dunda
facki
fanva
fasnu
fraxu
frili
ganlo
ganxo
gasnu
gerku
gismu
gleki
gletu
grusi
gunka
jet= nu
jimpe
jitfa
jmive
jufra
jundi
kakne
kanla
karce<= br>klama
kukte
labno
lenku
lorxu
lumci
mabla
melbi
milxe
mipri
mlatu
morji
morsi
mukti
munje
mutce
nan= ca
nanmu
narju
natfe
nenri
ninmu
nitcu
nobli
nukni<= br>pelxu
pensi
pilno
pinxe
pixra
plise
pluka
prenu
purci
ractu
ralte
remna
rinka
rupnu
salci
simlu
sip= na
srera
stali
stedi
stuzi
tanxe
taske
tavla
tcika<= br>terdi
titla
troci
valsi
vasru
vasxu
viska
vrude
xagji
xamgu
xekri
xlali
xrula
xunre
zasti
zdani
zir= pu
zukte
zvati


le so'u cmavo zo'u li re no re (203= /1090- =3D 18.6+%, not counting anything that is also a rafsi, or any compo= unds)
.a
.abu
.au
.e
.ebu
.i
.i'e
.ibu
.ie
.ii
= .ija
.ije
.ijo
.iju
.iu
.o
.obu
.oi
.u
.u'i<= br>.ua
.ubu
.ui
.uu
.y'ybu
.ybu
ba
ba'o
bi
bo
bu
bu'o
by
ca
ca'a
ca'o
cai
ci=
ci'i
co'e
co'o
coi
cu'e
cu'i
cyda
dai
de
di
di'u
do
doi
du
du'u
dy
fa
fa'o
fe
fe'u
fi
fi'o
fo
fo'a
fo&= #39;e
fo'i
fo'o
fo'u
fu
fy
ga
ga'i
= ge
gi
gi'a
gi'e
gi'i
gi'o
gi'u
go
go'i
goi
gu
gy
je'e
ju'i
ju'o
ju= 'u
jy
ka
ka'e
kau
kei
ki'a
ki'e
ko<= br>ko'a
ko'e
ko'i
ko'o
ko'u
ku
ku'= ;i
ku'o
ky
la
la'i
la'e
le
le'i
lei
li=
li'u
lo
lo'i
loi
lu
ly
ma
mi
mi'ami'e
mi'o
mo
mu
mu'o
my
na
na'e
ni
no
noi
nu
ny
pa
pai
pe
pe'u
pei
pi
= pi'i
po
po'e
poi
pu
pu'o
py
re
re'e=
re'i
ro
ro'e
ro'u
ru'e
ry
sa
sai
se
si
si'o
so
so'a
so'e
so'i
so'o<= br>so'u
su
su'i
sy
ta
ta'o
te
ti
to'= ;e
tu
tu'e
tu'u
ty
va
vau
ve
vi
vo
vu
vy
xa
xa'o
xe
xi
xo
xy
y
za
za'oze
zi
zi'e
zo
zo'e
zo'o
zo'u
zoi
= zu
zy

(And if you've been nice enough to read these, here'= ;s my proposal for a Lojbanic ROYGBIV: xenpecycabzan - hand-touch-currently= -favorable.)

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