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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 20:28:28 -0200
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Alice essay
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> In this case {KREFU} is supposed to be a metalinguistic comment; the fact
> that it is strangely written makes that more clear than if it had been
> written {krefu}.
>

Yes, "krefu" would have looked like it was a continuation of the preceding
sentence.

BTW, this is not the only (or the first) use of all-caps in the text. The
labels that Alice reads, KO MI PINXE and KO MI CITKA are also written in
all-caps. In this case not just because the original does that, but also
because there is a DRINK ME in one of the pictures and I thought that made
for a better match between text and picture.


(Hypocritically, I have a stylistic choice to argue about: I would have,
> instead of {lo jukpa lo cifnu cu kansa}, said {lo jukpa .e lo cifnu cu
> kansa}; in the original text, the line is "the cook and the baby joined",
> not "the cook joined the baby")
>

But "lo jukpa .e lo cifnu cu kansa" means that each of them was doing
something with someone, not that they were doing something together. "lo
jukpa joi lo cifnu cu kansi'u" would have worked though.

There are a some gismu like kansa, penmi, and a few others where I really
don't like it when people use a plural in x1 and leave the x2 unfilled with
the intention that it be taken as "reciprocally".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rpglover64@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span style=3D"color:rgb(80,0,80)">=A0</span><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
>In this case {KREFU} is supposed to be a metalinguistic comment; the fact =
that it is strangely written makes that more clear than if it had been writ=
ten {krefu}.<br>
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, &quot;krefu&q=
uot; would have looked like it was a continuation of the preceding sentence=
.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, this is not the only (or the first) use of =
all-caps in the text. The labels that Alice reads, KO MI PINXE and KO MI CI=
TKA are also written in all-caps. In this case not just because the origina=
l does that, but also because there is a DRINK ME in one of the pictures an=
d I thought that made for a better match between text and picture.</div>
<div>=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,2=
04);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>(Hypocritically, I have a stylistic choice =
to argue about: I would have, instead of {lo jukpa lo cifnu cu kansa}, said=
 {lo jukpa .e lo cifnu cu kansa}; in the original text, the line is &quot;t=
he cook and the baby joined&quot;, not &quot;the cook joined the baby&quot;=
)<br>
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But &quot;lo jukpa=
 .e lo cifnu cu kansa&quot; means that each of them was doing something wit=
h someone, not that they were doing something together. &quot;lo jukpa joi =
lo cifnu cu kansi&#39;u&quot; would have worked though.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There are a some gismu like kansa, penmi, and a few oth=
ers where I really don&#39;t like it when people use a plural in x1 and lea=
ve the x2 unfilled with the intention that it be taken as &quot;reciprocall=
y&quot;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></di=
v></div>

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