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>  (Hypocritically, I have a stylistic choice to argue about: I would have,
>> instead of {lo jukpa lo cifnu cu kansa}, said {lo jukpa .e lo cifnu cu
>> kansa}; in the original text, the line is "the cook and the baby joined",
>> not "the cook joined the baby")
>>
>
> But "lo jukpa .e lo cifnu cu kansa" means that each of them was doing
> something with someone, not that they were doing something together. "lo
> jukpa joi lo cifnu cu kansi'u" would have worked though.
>
> There are a some gismu like kansa, penmi, and a few others where I really
> don't like it when people use a plural in x1 and leave the x2 unfilled with
> the intention that it be taken as "reciprocally".
>

I wouldn't have taken it to be meant reciprocally; I read the English to
mean that they both joined the duchess.

 mu'o mi'e xorxes
>


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<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>(Hypocritically, I have a stylistic choice =
to argue about: I would have, instead of {lo jukpa lo cifnu cu kansa}, said=
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he cook and the baby joined&quot;, not &quot;the cook joined the baby&quot;=
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</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>But &quot;lo=
 jukpa .e lo cifnu cu kansa&quot; means that each of them was doing somethi=
ng with someone, not that they were doing something together. &quot;lo jukp=
a joi lo cifnu cu kansi&#39;u&quot; would have worked though.</div>


<div><br></div><div>There are a some gismu like kansa, penmi, and a few oth=
ers where I really don&#39;t like it when people use a plural in x1 and lea=
ve the x2 unfilled with the intention that it be taken as &quot;reciprocall=
y&quot;.</div>

</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I wouldn&#39;t have take=
n it to be meant reciprocally; I read the English to mean that they both jo=
ined the duchess. <br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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<div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></d=
iv><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .arpis.<br>
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