Received: from mail-ea0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:40463) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VpxOA-0005qS-92 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:39 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f189.google.com with SMTP id f15sf321522eak.16 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kgptn7C684q7xm+DkUD05loo53Zr8Cyqz2UkqlFX98g=; b=VNjLIIO7Z57+reWQtXOJIbvlmdjJpBcW5LYWrv9u3+srR4BbCgv60pSUXqenqrqi/X aIQAQRFczTqQ+smGe+njbJ5L27kSVEdR5mLen0jIl2S+mqCGrwb70fIYBThX5AA3bpVh vDKsFzYKT19H/Ew/22IRX0a28IJj2AdBHId9ysoy9Gjgy1J1wvvBx4yzFnNxg1SG8PPg BqocjlNRdAQfbxjrs7nz1HuAOwgJyMEC2sMnSYDfuYs1PrH0OYsN4bWWFbj4Tzy3yVHv O6Rq73ZD38Flcv06RGVLwT/etEBAPs8uAoUa33vfGCjn9xAv/zaZpkNR8iC6vgwIokbv FerQ== X-Received: by 10.180.37.38 with SMTP id v6mr108614wij.16.1386582262638; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.19.8 with SMTP id a8ls449069wie.27.gmail; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.205.86.131 with SMTP id as3mr3840898bkc.5.1386582262121; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7si471075wib.1.2013.12.09.01.44.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::234; Received: by mail-wg0-x234.google.com with SMTP id x13so3172252wgg.7 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.2.79 with SMTP id 15mr998037wjs.90.1386582261989; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.60.78 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 01:44:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131209103402.1fc671bd@aol.com> References: <20131209103402.1fc671bd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 13:44:21 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] No more CAPTCHAs in the Wiki for verified users, please! From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a8c3a2d868f04ed16d718 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b3a8c3a2d868f04ed16d718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is interesting. No one complained so... In fact logged in user shouldnt see any captcha because now every account creation request has to be approved by administrators of whom I know myself, Tsani, Selpahi. I disabled ReCaptcha extension. Please check again. I hope ConfirmAccount extension will be enough to stop zombi from coming through. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Wuzzy wrote: > Oh my gosh, whoever set up the CAPTCHA system in the Lojban Media Wiki > must be a sinister person. Seriously, you are > torturing me! ;-) > > I can understand that you have to have a CAPTCHA system to keep the > bots out but why, oh why do you have to force a CAPTCHA for _every > single fucking edit_ for _registered_ users who have proven a thausand > times that they=92re human? Editing the wiki is not fun this way. :-( > > Please change the CAPTCHA policy of the wiki. I suggest to use the > CAPTCHA only for unregistered users and in the registration process > itself. Still some bots may slip through so you could build in a human > verification. New registered users are considered =93unverified=94 until = a > human gives the OK. In =93unverified=94 state, CAPTCHAs still have to be > solved but after this state has been lifted, no more CAPTCHAs. Bots may > outsmart CAPTCHAs but not humans. > > > > -- > Wuzzy > XMPP: Wuzzy2@jabber.ccc.de > E-Mail: wuzzy2@mail.ru > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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This is interesting. No one complained so...
In fact l= ogged in user shouldnt see any captcha because now every account creation r= equest has to be approved by administrators of whom I know myself, Tsani, S= elpahi.

I disabled ReCaptcha extension. Please check again. I h= ope=A0ConfirmAccount extension will be enough to stop zombi from coming thr= ough.



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Wuzzy <almikes@aol.com> wrote:=
Oh my gosh, whoever set up the CAPTCHA system in the Lojban Media Wiki
<http://mw.lojban.or= g/> must be a sinister person. Seriously, you are
torturing me! ;-)

I can understand that you have to have a CAPTCHA system to keep the
bots out but why, oh why do you have to force a CAPTCHA for _every
single fucking edit_ for _registered_ users who have proven a thausand
times that they=92re human? Editing the wiki is not fun this way. :-(

Please change the CAPTCHA policy of the wiki. I suggest to use the
CAPTCHA only for unregistered users and in the registration process
itself. Still some bots may slip through so you could build in a human
verification. New registered users are considered =93unverified=94 until a<= br> human gives the OK. In =93unverified=94 state, CAPTCHAs still have to be solved but after this state has been lifted, no more CAPTCHAs. Bots may
outsmart CAPTCHAs but not humans.



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E-Mail: wuzzy2@mail.ru

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