Received: from mail-ea0-f191.google.com ([209.85.215.191]:34260) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VpxVY-0005t3-UX for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:24 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f191.google.com with SMTP id z10sf302294ead.8 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dJMf1V98jWpXxWtRsGU+5tQ4AelIQtjg4uDctEDDhH0=; b=D1PFoTxzsG23tBEzwIAuuG36tRWXBdj5ohRtBAsYIIWieY2h+D3k9SWQ9ePO7mAQWt oCjIWuXajeziHGe9X2Ls8kUlZEZew4BGT2HZZk5XIcQKujczxSjmfZW0JT6FHZqn9gKM gn0zPSZ/bNh/R9vGIUqX5hMLoBit3lRdbQcs91OBMYVcIsDc/J68zzIDQXVelFQo21An kz0s+a8vHTLc7HkHX3aD845R+YE2aXCHihdIy3nop5N5r5cHhBA/ryevqzo5AhvWdXis d4UTMdIbOhCEN9rehjwVp8KZip/iIB2Ksds9VRYxC1TJgCaXKmp1MBvt9NN8yYmLwcIv b2KA== X-Received: by 10.180.206.110 with SMTP id ln14mr108310wic.7.1386582721824; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.92.136 with SMTP id cm8ls468376wib.9.gmail; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.47.196 with SMTP id t44mr7942460eeb.1.1386582721270; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7si471325wib.1.2013.12.09.01.52.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::232; Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id bz8so3320104wib.5 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.189.80 with SMTP id gg16mr13217415wic.32.1386582721125; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.60.78 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 01:52:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20131209103402.1fc671bd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 13:52:01 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] No more CAPTCHAs in the Wiki for verified users, please! From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c223148b63ed04ed16f265 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c223148b63ed04ed16f265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, and since http://vicarious.com/ have cracked captcha it's now useless (and we are all doomed which is another story). On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > This is interesting. No one complained so... > In fact logged in user shouldnt see any captcha because now every account > creation request has to be approved by administrators of whom I know > myself, Tsani, Selpahi. > > I disabled ReCaptcha extension. Please check again. I hope ConfirmAccount > extension will be enough to stop zombi from coming through. > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Wuzzy wrote: > >> Oh my gosh, whoever set up the CAPTCHA system in the Lojban Media Wiki >> must be a sinister person. Seriously, you are >> torturing me! ;-) >> >> I can understand that you have to have a CAPTCHA system to keep the >> bots out but why, oh why do you have to force a CAPTCHA for _every >> single fucking edit_ for _registered_ users who have proven a thausand >> times that they=92re human? Editing the wiki is not fun this way. :-( >> >> Please change the CAPTCHA policy of the wiki. I suggest to use the >> CAPTCHA only for unregistered users and in the registration process >> itself. Still some bots may slip through so you could build in a human >> verification. New registered users are considered =93unverified=94 until= a >> human gives the OK. In =93unverified=94 state, CAPTCHAs still have to be >> solved but after this state has been lifted, no more CAPTCHAs. Bots may >> outsmart CAPTCHAs but not humans. >> >> >> >> -- >> Wuzzy >> XMPP: Wuzzy2@jabber.ccc.de >> E-Mail: wuzzy2@mail.ru >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Oh, and since=A0http://v= icarious.com/ have cracked captcha it's now useless=A0
(and we = are all doomed which is another story).


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Gleki Arxoku= na <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
This is interesting. No one complained so...
In fact l= ogged in user shouldnt see any captcha because now every account creation r= equest has to be approved by administrators of whom I know myself, Tsani, S= elpahi.

I disabled ReCaptcha extension. Please check again. I h= ope=A0ConfirmAccount extension will be enough to stop zombi from coming thr= ough.



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Wuzzy <almikes@aol.com> wrote:=
Oh my gosh, whoever set up the CAPTCHA system in the Lojban Media Wiki
<http://mw.lojban.or= g/> must be a sinister person. Seriously, you are
torturing me! ;-)

I can understand that you have to have a CAPTCHA system to keep the
bots out but why, oh why do you have to force a CAPTCHA for _every
single fucking edit_ for _registered_ users who have proven a thausand
times that they=92re human? Editing the wiki is not fun this way. :-(

Please change the CAPTCHA policy of the wiki. I suggest to use the
CAPTCHA only for unregistered users and in the registration process
itself. Still some bots may slip through so you could build in a human
verification. New registered users are considered =93unverified=94 until a<= br> human gives the OK. In =93unverified=94 state, CAPTCHAs still have to be solved but after this state has been lifted, no more CAPTCHAs. Bots may
outsmart CAPTCHAs but not humans.



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Wuzzy
XMPP: Wuzzy2@jabb= er.ccc.de
E-Mail: wuzzy2@mail.ru<= /a>

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