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On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 14:43:41 John E. Clifford wrote:
> Well, it has the history somewhat skewed and almost all the usual errors
> about the Whorf Hypothesis, but a decent sketch of what most people and
> Wikipedia think this is all about.  And no, logical languages don't make =
ou
> more logical nor does the hypothesis nor JCB in his saner moments claim
> they would.

I've read of an actual test of the hypothesis - not a set-up experiment, bu=
t=20
an observation of two existing groups of people. There is a noticeable=20
difference in the kinds of industrial accidents that Swedish-speaking Finns=
 and=20
Finnish-speaking Finns get into; it was traced to the different ways the tw=
o=20
languages encode spatiotemporal ideas. Finns who learned one language at ho=
me=20
are required to learn the other in school (except in =C5land), so it's not =
just=20
knowing the language that makes the difference, but learning it first.

Lojban has at least ten ways of saying "and", several ways of saying "if", =
a=20
large set of specific prepositions, both spatial and temporal tenses, and f=
ull=20
clusivity. On the other hand, it lacks grammatical number and gender. What=
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effect would learning Lojban as one's first language have on the mind?

Pierre
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li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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