Received: from mail-wg0-f64.google.com ([74.125.82.64]:63595) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vr0H0-0002lH-Vy for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:33 -0800 Received: by mail-wg0-f64.google.com with SMTP id z12sf736839wgg.19 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=4zTxhbLt2L6Y0XloJhOzV5uiQjaWHOukMOrICCw/9XQ=; b=yvbZ+7JwrMXi3dzfhhC0QuGdvydNpAYKE+WZ1mWgh15JWXBfpBB9GoNR/NcYvoE01s AQ1JAwDEpGT3+NmHMgc7JZSn1XciwtHcGA1qmlARrlhVV/mgqO4wy5XxGVpj1QJOYM7K XsvFA6P618QrDYfwPVLtwtQ8IMANQMgHSZA8XqCzbOu9vpf+niLIhDmTjsl7W6l+eh2q JTHnATE3PxVZQTMGuApUmhBpT6Gd9FbEsOzZHF9gU9xqqQFKt6Chr//fDmgvGztp4etY UhMQBpu3Jyx21V1OijcTjB6DGZo6hFHyYUC5+0Ga9Vx+deVdp0dMxS84epjXOc03Zbtl 4sOQ== X-Received: by 10.152.29.1 with SMTP id f1mr2049lah.18.1386831679496; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.26.100 with SMTP id k4ls54353lag.101.gmail; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.87.104 with SMTP id w8mr3635968laz.8.1386831679070; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r7si48542wic.0.2013.12.11.23.01.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::232; Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id bz8so1995941wib.17 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.13.139 with SMTP id h11mr6275155wic.3.1386831678959; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.60.78 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:01:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6502fef8-4a16-4481-9465-aae6b34be33d@googlegroups.com> References: <20131209103402.1fc671bd@aol.com> <6502fef8-4a16-4481-9465-aae6b34be33d@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 11:01:18 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: No more CAPTCHAs in the Wiki for verified users, please! From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c244489677b104ed50e94c X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c244489677b104ed50e94c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM, la xirsoi wrote: > CAPTCHA is dead, your only resort is admin activation or QA. > Unfortunately the former is a headache and the later is an ever escalating > Cold War that will inevitably end in Strong AI ruling the internet. > Admin activation, yes. For now only bureaucrats can confirm newly created accounts. I hope there will be enough of them to do so. Unfortunately, almost nobody is contributing to this wiki atm. As for strong AI in this case it sometimes cannot be separated from human mind. What if a person whom I don't know from IRC or mailing list says {coi lo jatna i au mi favgau lo dei uitki}. Should I allow them in? Should I allow them if they write such messages in English? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c244489677b104ed50e94c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM, la xirsoi <chevalieradam2@gmail.co= m> wrote:
CAPTCHA is dead, your only resort is ad= min activation or QA.
Unfortunately the former is a headache = and the later is an ever escalating Cold War that will inevitably end in St= rong AI ruling the internet.


Admin activatio= n, yes. For now only bureaucrats can confirm newly created accounts. I hope= there will be enough of them to do so. Unfortunately, almost nobody is con= tributing to this wiki atm. As for strong AI in this case it sometimes cann= ot be separated from human mind. What if a person whom I don't know fro= m IRC or mailing list says {coi lo jatna i au mi favgau lo dei uitki}. Shou= ld I allow them in? Should I allow them if they write such messages in Engl= ish?

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