Received: from mail-qe0-f59.google.com ([209.85.128.59]:41538) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vr1Mc-00031C-3m for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:22 -0800 Received: by mail-qe0-f59.google.com with SMTP id ne12sf17448qeb.14 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6Tosx61y30XpZ+aqZjKB83suaOPKU/QIN9j9EAjfdnc=; b=l8IEDu6C2qa8zPo6mOmejW5oGfMO/yCRe0VPueA5wD3fUlM06c586RtTgG2UC9ynCi xBTcGsew0AKvXo3DTsuoTdB+NOgRpVUJmdmC6vh49TZ9mbZXDI6kHuyyTrQyESdsW9IK Ch2oG8CvIN7dhn+uiBKb5haSDwZE+Rk1Fp+3uYI9a29V5wCxH0MEa8fJ04dJpfDT/kok x4aaF9sfqNJXndXceIGUvP3vaXhnWr+BJGTeqfLY5GIMboUbxEx1xORlBkxnMbsnd9yz eBLFTzNPPw5mP6I46+nuJpwSya5L2h5LpE2XnXTJRfSwun/Wsuhvd8fU6l/CtcwO6mGe ZFwQ== X-Received: by 10.49.116.169 with SMTP id jx9mr169332qeb.0.1386835871820; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.60.228 with SMTP id k4ls392361qer.93.gmail; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.69.35 with SMTP id m23mr2097319yhd.6.1386835871387; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x231.google.com (mail-vc0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4si99009qch.3.2013.12.12.00.11.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::231; Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hq11so36294vcb.36 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.52.118.98 with SMTP id kl2mr2273824vdb.30.1386835871114; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:11:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.161.48 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:10:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20131209103402.1fc671bd@aol.com> <6502fef8-4a16-4481-9465-aae6b34be33d@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 03:10:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: No more CAPTCHAs in the Wiki for verified users, please! To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a0e0475a9f404ed51e37e X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e013a0e0475a9f404ed51e37e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And if it is an AI, what if it's interested in Lojban? Should you reject it just because it's not human? stevo On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM, la xirsoi wrote: > >> CAPTCHA is dead, your only resort is admin activation or QA. >> Unfortunately the former is a headache and the later is an ever >> escalating Cold War that will inevitably end in Strong AI ruling the >> internet. >> > > > Admin activation, yes. For now only bureaucrats can confirm newly created > accounts. I hope there will be enough of them to do so. Unfortunately, > almost nobody is contributing to this wiki atm. As for strong AI in this > case it sometimes cannot be separated from human mind. What if a person > whom I don't know from IRC or mailing list says {coi lo jatna i au mi > favgau lo dei uitki}. Should I allow them in? 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And if it is an AI, what if it's interested in Lojban? S= hould you reject it just because it's not human?=A0

stevo


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <glek= i.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:= 08 AM, la xirsoi <chevalieradam2@gmail.com> wrote:
CAPTCHA is dead, your only resort is ad= min activation or QA.
Unfortunately the former is a headache = and the later is an ever escalating Cold War that will inevitably end in St= rong AI ruling the internet.


Admin act= ivation, yes. For now only bureaucrats can confirm newly created accounts. = I hope there will be enough of them to do so. Unfortunately, almost nobody = is contributing to this wiki atm. As for strong AI in this case it sometime= s cannot be separated from human mind. What if a person whom I don't kn= ow from IRC or mailing list says {coi lo jatna i au mi favgau lo dei uitki}= . Should I allow them in? Should I allow them if they write such messages i= n English?

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