Received: from mail-pd0-f188.google.com ([209.85.192.188]:58036) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vr9G9-0004OM-Li for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:37:20 -0800 Received: by mail-pd0-f188.google.com with SMTP id y10sf155663pdj.15 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:37:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=14LwIi1cgmGj8MkinQZ0TOgcUZUMiR/EzL0TtdOVP50=; b=PTddaQ/Pa7BfaKo0WJP6uRdjPxIbs3LLFUf/Lr6sFZdHxAWu+J/uHEsJvozJoESyNn 08kh3Y+on2ASPoKANnsTfn/Q51cfz7rQtWomvEChSrNH9tJEy5q5lOK28V5s3nuAf5vA 19bmfgjWozVLg8VvZDUowgnqxuG3olTHAaWG1l7LQNPGuhdSvfzIembX1qOSA8xTEFoO RTPMwmjGoKqgGu5e93Dx+Awk4BJ5HdFDnVWXwQTbhr1miIA8iEL4G9L8sP/I9p+bG2Sk aZ0KudUnwZw57HIASWb8hmcX2/MfVD4nMcjUrPvID8gEVxE9UyDsznjyM001y2riZcsd 0phg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=14LwIi1cgmGj8MkinQZ0TOgcUZUMiR/EzL0TtdOVP50=; b=HsVCQGqiV3n9Fu+EJWoC6ayos0bwAjjku76S7TbdG2IeaSNoFefkWhRoV15xkpSYpW zWRfIY03K6m6+Jzx41rBqhXEQD2BxRpRiXD+c6NYH6xDxwG5L90RBHTPmFThe4gmE74e IShtVhLgHPyoJeR0POVJtIn2ox5XAK/IuwKVeI9WQF5gMjpNwGBxVxbiEh2WXYpV0ubg Yj6EYM0koTy4aNCNmEbDdeoU0u5+DtOjLcgpKGRy/gseSrrxS+2Sz6lZCpEz3RVY8zSp d1k7SOrO+Ypkh2eV46EpuBCkIZVkhHcqGtv1IAPbKz58tum2zyrxtM4JDY4cBavvA2iY 6Fyg== X-Received: by 10.182.124.5 with SMTP id me5mr98424obb.23.1386866223473; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:37:03 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.236.35 with SMTP id ur3ls354678obc.98.gmail; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:37:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.28.100 with SMTP id a4mr98992obh.28.1386866221978; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:37:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: la xirsoi To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <780d8e2c-c40d-4e21-82e0-254e09aa3c46@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20131209103402.1fc671bd@aol.com> <6502fef8-4a16-4481-9465-aae6b34be33d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: No more CAPTCHAs in the Wiki for verified users, please! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: chevalieradam2@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1274_27206330.1386866221430" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1274_27206330.1386866221430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was mostly making a joke about the Strong AI, implying that spam-bot developers will have to make their bots more intelligent to understand more complex Q/A prompts, eventually leading to natural language processing and Strong AI. On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:01:18 AM UTC-6, la arxokuna wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:08 AM, la xirsoi > > wrote: > >> CAPTCHA is dead, your only resort is admin activation or QA. >> Unfortunately the former is a headache and the later is an ever >> escalating Cold War that will inevitably end in Strong AI ruling the >> internet. >> > > > Admin activation, yes. For now only bureaucrats can confirm newly created > accounts. I hope there will be enough of them to do so. Unfortunately, > almost nobody is contributing to this wiki atm. As for strong AI in this > case it sometimes cannot be separated from human mind. What if a person > whom I don't know from IRC or mailing list says {coi lo jatna i au mi > favgau lo dei uitki}. Should I allow them in? Should I allow them if they > write such messages in English? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_1274_27206330.1386866221430 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was mostly making a joke about the Strong AI, implying t= hat spam-bot developers will have to make their bots more intelligent to un= derstand more complex Q/A prompts, eventually leading to natural language p= rocessing and Strong AI.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:01:18 AM U= TC-6, la arxokuna wrote:

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:08= AM, la xirsoi <c= hevali...@gmail.com> wrote:
CAPTCHA is dead, your only resort is ad= min activation or QA.
Unfortunately the former is a headache = and the later is an ever escalating Cold War that will inevitably end in St= rong AI ruling the internet.


Admin activation, yes. For now only b= ureaucrats can confirm newly created accounts. I hope there will be enough = of them to do so. Unfortunately, almost nobody is contributing to this wiki= atm. As for strong AI in this case it sometimes cannot be separated from h= uman mind. What if a person whom I don't know from IRC or mailing list says= {coi lo jatna i au mi favgau lo dei uitki}. Should I allow them in? Should= I allow them if they write such messages in English?

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